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Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by auburnnyc94
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:17 pm to
It will probably never work out this way, but that could be a nice starting 5 in the future.
1- Jones
2- Flanigan
3- Okoro
4- Williams
5- Akingbola
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 1:30 pm to
I posted in the OP some KenPom stats as of 11/26, some interesting notes/comments
quote:



TO% (#88)


We fell from ~25-30 to #88 after the Arizona game (23.7% TO).

The 3 players driving the high TO% are Doughty/McCormick + Okeke (5TO v USA). Would imagine that all 3 players are likely to see improved TO% as SD/JM adjust to YR1 and if Okeke's 5TO game is an outlier


2017 vs 2018 TO Rate for key players

Harper: 16.8 -> 16.3
Brown: 10.7 -> 12.8
McLemore: 15.0 -> 7.0
Dunbar: 16.4 -> 14.8
Spencer: 22.6 -> 5.6


quote:


FT 67.1% ('17: 77.4%)



The drop in FT% is the result of a dramatic change in FTA distribution from our higher FT% shooting backcourt to poorer FT% front court



'17->'18 FTA Distribution By Position

PG: 26.7% -> 17.1%
SG: 16.2% -> 21.3%
SF: 25.0% -> 10.8%
PF: 18.3% -> 18.8%
C : 13.8% -> 32.1%


The change in distribution is likely due to a few factors

- Losing Mustapha Heron from back court (#256 Nat'l FTRate)
- Jared Harper's massive 66% dropoff in FT Rate (Was #27 Nat'l '17-18)
- Adding FT Rate Machine Austin Wiley to Post (Would be KenPom FTRate top ~10 in '17)


'17->'18 FT% By Position (GC's Assumptions for Pos Breakdown)

PG: 81.0% -> 85.7%
SG: 76.8% -> 77.1%
SF: 78.2% -> 87.8%
PF: 77.6% -> 68.6%
C : 71.8% -> 46.4%



The FT% Changes are due to a few factors

- PG: Harper improvement / Loss of DavMitchell PG Minutes (~68%)
- SG: Loss of DavMitchell (~66%) SG Minutes
- SF: Doughty 100% FT offsets the 67.4% from others

- PF: Okeke's improved FT% not enough to offset Spencer/McLemore's PF minutes

- C: Addition of 47% Wiley + regression of Spencer/McLemore



'17 -> '18 FT % Comparison for Key Players


Harper: 82.2% -> 85.7%
Brown: 77.5% -> 76.5%
Okeke: 67.3% -> 75.0%
McLemore: 72.9% -> 42.9%
Wiley: 49.1% ('16) -> 47.1%

Doughty: 76.6% ('16VCU) -> 100% (6/6)
Spencer: 72.1% -> 50%


quote:

FT Attempt per FG Attempt #310 ('17: #36)



The causes of the drastically reduced FT Rate appear to be the symptom of personnel losses and offensive playing style

Personnel Losses

The of Mustapha Heron + DeSean Murray cannot be understated. Heron/Murray were top 3 in FT Rate (FT Att/FG Att) for Auburn and ranked in the top 250 nationally . As mentioned above, this loss can be seen in the shifting FT Distribution from the backcourt to the front court.


Changing Playing Style

Auburn has had a significantly increased number of 3FGA this season, as much viewers may have noticed. This will result in significantly lower FT Rates as most fouls occur during drives and/or post play

As a quick estimate I estimated the % of 2FG Attempts using the following ( [FTA/2 + 2FGA] / [FTA/2 + 2FGA + 3FGA]). It won't account for And-1s + Fouls on 3FG, but AU rarely makes the shot for And-1s + 3FG fouls are rare/small% of FTA


2017: 2FG% ~63.9% 3FG% ~36.1%
2018: 2FG% ~53.6% 3FG% ~46.4%



This changing shot selection is a result of both the Heron/Murray losses (72.8% / 81.7% 2FGA respectively) as well as the increased 3FGA frequency of Brown / Harper

Brown: 40.7% -> 32% 2FGA Distribution
Harper: 57.9% -> 46.7% 2FGA Distribution



Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
8441 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 4:31 pm to
Little early for this talk but why not. TeamRankings has us as the 4th one seed in their bracket projections.

basketballschool
Posted by autodd03
Clown world
Member since Dec 2013
2532 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 6:48 pm to
Never too early! NET will continue to improve as the season progresses. The takeaway from it for me is that the conference is down this year. Barring a major upset, we may not have a marquee win to juice the conference numbers.
Posted by Zeroforwinger
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 6:51 pm to
Kentucky, Tennessee, Miss St, and LSU are all Top 25 teams. Plenty of quality in the SEC
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12220 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:38 pm to
That link has only 5 SEC teams.
1 Auburn
2 Tennessee
7 State
9 Florida
11 Kentucky
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41869 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:18 pm to
Yeah that’s not a great look for a league many thought could get 9 into the tournament
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
10132 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:23 pm to
I mean it’s early and that’s a data based site.. it has Kentucky as an 11 seed which ain’t happening. I think Auburn, Kentucky, UT are complete locks.. LSU, State, Florida all have very high chances, then 1-2 of Vandy, Bama, Arky will get in
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

That link has only 5 SEC teams.

SEC is 2-17 vs KenPom top 50 teams


5 may be generous
Posted by AuburnTigers15
Member since Sep 2015
178 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:57 pm to
quote:

SEC is 2-17 vs KenPom top 50 teams


5 may be generous


I agree. We haven't done well OOC thus far.

Also, how about that coaches poll lol.

Auburn drops below Kentucky.

Both teams 5-1.

Both teams lost to the same team on a neutral court.

Auburn by 6. 34 free throws to 9.

Kentucky by 30+.

Awesome stuff.
Posted by jsmoove
Member since Oct 2010
13474 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:20 am to
Trayvon Reed beat another road Pac 12 team. Led Texas Southern with 23 points (9/9), this time against a top 25 Oregon. Bol Bol was out there hitting PG 3's. Reed had 15 and 12 in their win at Baylor, and 14 and 16 against Gonzaga.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 2:21 am
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52551 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:59 am to
Jon Rothstein
Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
Mustapha Heron through St. John's first five games: 17.8 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 48.4% from the field, 50% from 3-point range. Is there a less talked about star in college basketball?
Posted by Gnar Cat21
Piña Coladaburg
Member since Sep 2009
17137 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:11 am to
I still don’t understand why so many people on this board didn’t like heron last year. He was the leading scorer on a team that won 26 games but caught so much shite last year.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
10132 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:15 am to
I like Heron and am glad he came to Auburn and gave us 2 good years but I simply think.. as talented as he is.. his removal could be good for the ceiling of the team. He is naturally a ball stopper and had an incredibly low assist rate and was exposed off the ball on defense.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52551 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:16 am to
He was the best player last year. People can say Bryce and Harper were more electric but not tbe best.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
10132 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:23 am to
Best? Maybe. Durant is the best player on the Warriors. But Draymond and Steph are more valuable to the team.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:25 am to
People were frustrated by Heron’s style of play. If he got the ball he was likely going to shoot it and was frequently the main culprit of the offense slowing down. He was without a doubt the most talented player we had, he just wasn’t a good fit.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52551 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:26 am to
I’m pretty meh on Draymond. Especially this year.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
12113 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:01 pm to
way out of left field here guys...

If I get rid of Direct TV, how can I still watch AU bball?
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:16 pm to
Pirate someone's ESPN app login or purchase a streaming service that includes ESPN/sec network
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