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re: Stop Avoiding my Bruce Roster Question

Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:08 am to
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
44971 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:08 am to
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If we landed RJ Godfrey at the 4 instead of Jaheim Hudson I would have felt a lot better about our overall depth

Yep
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33465 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:35 am to
How is that a problem, Hudson would not be a factor on a team competing for championships just like he wasn't for us
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
14076 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:36 am to
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It’s almost as if Howard shouldn’t have quit and left the court in the middle of a big game, after already having a laundry list of issues.
Then BP should have kicked him off the team and not wasted time on him. Since he didnt kick him off the team, BP failed in coaching him up.

You guys can shite all over Howard all you want. Mistakes were made. He was punished. If yall want to hold it over his head for all time and not move on, thats on your character.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
44971 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 9:38 am to
Hudsen being our 7th player is a problem

Teams stashing Hudsen as their 15th player is a problem. Youre willfully being obtuse.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
27970 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:20 am to
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You guys can shite all over Howard all you want. Mistakes were made. He was punished. If yall want to hold it over his head for all time and not move on

We have moved on. You’re correct he made mistakes and was punished. His punishment was not getting to play the rest of the year, which in my eyes was a perfectly fine punishment. My question is why can’t you move on?
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
27970 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:23 am to
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Hudsen being our 7th player is a problem

Not to be a stickler but he was our 9th man and didn’t play since his 4 mins in the ASU game. I agree with your premise though that another big would have helped us so that Dylan and Broome could have gotten more breaks.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33465 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:19 am to
You're being dishonest. He was, at best, our 9th player and that's only because of the Howard stuff and JP not producing. So he should have been 11 which is just about right.

Even if your post was correct though yes it would be a big problem if he were our 7th man. It would not be a problem if he were Kentucky's 15th man. If we get to the point of counting on that caliber of player to help us win then we are aren't going anywhere anyway.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 11:24 am
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
44971 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:23 am to
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So he should have been 11 which is just about right.

Others were a bum so he shouldve been 11 in what sense does that make?

His position was a critical need. If you could have him come in at 15 he would've been a fine get. You dont want to devote a whole scholarship to him.

You're the dishonest one here.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33465 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:27 am to
I guess I don't understand the point you're trying to make. He was not our 7th man so throw that out the window.

I thought you were trying to say the bigger budget teams would stack guys like him at the end of their bench and that would be a problem for us. I'm saying guys like him aren't helping anybody win at the level we want to win at so it doesn't really matter if it's him or some rando floppy haired white boy at the end of a Kansas or Kentucky bench it doesn't have any impact on us at all with the current state of our program.
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15235 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:33 am to
I'm trying to parse what he is trying to say too...

By the end of the regular season it was pretty clear that rotation had been set and if any of the regular rotation guys got fouls (which they did quite often) we really had no option but to provide less rest to our starters because guys like Pegues and Hudsen were non-entities.

I chalk it up to a player scouting whiff which you really can't do if you expect to make it through a long season AND have a reasonable chance to win it all.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
44971 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:00 pm to
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I thought you were trying to say the bigger budget teams would stack guys like him at the end of their bench and that would be a problem for us.

I am.

quote:

I'm saying guys like him aren't helping anybody win at the level we want to win at

He helped us against Georgia.

You cannot see the forrest from the trees
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
44971 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:01 pm to
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I'm trying to parse what he is trying to say too...
What is so unclear about my message? Pray tell
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33465 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:27 pm to
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He helped us against Georgia.


So I am supposed to be worried about not having a 10th man whose ceiling is a 5 point effort when filling in for an injured player and averaged 1 point and 1 rebound for the season?

I wish that was our biggest problem but we don't even have a clue who are starting 5 is going be at this point or where they are going to come from.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
44971 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:38 pm to
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So I am supposed to be worried about not having a 10th man whose ceiling is a 5 point effort when filling in for an injured player and averaged 1 point and 1 rebound for the season?

He helped us win the SEC championship by playing in that game according to Bruce. Would I want him to be the 10th man. No. 15th? yes. Every D1 school has the opportunity to have 15 players next year which you continue to ignore. Yes we need to rebuild the roster but if we want to be elite we need to be ahead of the curve.
Posted by goatsammich
North Alabama
Member since Jun 2023
119 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:49 pm to
There is no way any school will have 15 players on scholarsihp and contributing and happy. It's impossible.

Playing 10 is hard. Playing more is basically not possible.

Not sure how anyone adapts to this.
Posted by goatsammich
North Alabama
Member since Jun 2023
119 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 1:02 pm to
and...I didn't mean to post that twicet!
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 1:03 pm
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33465 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:57 pm to
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Every D1 school has the opportunity to have 15 players next year which you continue to ignore


I'm not ignoring it, I'm saying I don't care. Extend it to 100 it doesn't matter. Nobody is getting more than 10 actual contributors.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30493 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:37 pm to
Nobody plays more than 8 so not sure why someone is freaking out about having 15 contributors
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
44971 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:42 pm to
In our case 7 last game.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
44971 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 3:44 pm to
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I'm not ignoring it, I'm saying I don't care. Extend it to 100 it doesn't matter. Nobody is getting more than 10 actual contributors.

And then during the tournament time you will be complaining about injuries and depth.

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