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Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:55 am to RandySavage
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:55 am to RandySavage
First, the reason I provide those types of anecdotes from my experience playing basketball is because those adjustments and solutions did work for the most part. Secondly, just because you coach at a higher level doesn’t mean you know the most. From being around basketball for so long, there are many college coaches in lower divisions who I believe are great tactical coaches and would run circles around many of the Division 1 coaches. Also, you have to remember that it’s about who you know and having connections to the right people and having some luck to be provided the chance to coach at the highest level. A great example of this is Brad Stevens who was at Butler before he left for the NBA. He wasn’t even in the coaching business when he decided to become a video editor for Butler and the head coach at the time recognized how insightful and analytical Brad was and gave him a shot to be part of the staff. When the coach retired, he told the AD that he wanted his successor to be Brad Stevens and the rest is history.
My point is just because the coaches I played for didn’t coach at major programs doesn’t mean they know anything or don’t know as much. Basketball is basketball, it’s not that intricate and difficult to grasp, they’re not teaching thermal dynamics and organic chemistry here haha. So yea, when I see something that is easily correctable since I have had that experience before but see a coach at this level not see it, it does frustrated me and flabbergast me how they allow it continue to happen. I also know this too, the higher the level of competition in basketball the coach, the more stubborn and rigid they are with sticking with their philosophy. For Pearl, it has worked for the most part, but it’s also why it probably has hindered him from winning a championship and being more successful in the tournament because he gets stubborn. Again, that’s most coaches at these levels, they believe they know everything when in reality they really don’t. Not saying that Pearl is that and I have said he’s the best thing that has happened to our basketball program, but he does have some deficiencies when it comes to adjustments and coaching his team out of being complacent and having mental lapses.
My point is just because the coaches I played for didn’t coach at major programs doesn’t mean they know anything or don’t know as much. Basketball is basketball, it’s not that intricate and difficult to grasp, they’re not teaching thermal dynamics and organic chemistry here haha. So yea, when I see something that is easily correctable since I have had that experience before but see a coach at this level not see it, it does frustrated me and flabbergast me how they allow it continue to happen. I also know this too, the higher the level of competition in basketball the coach, the more stubborn and rigid they are with sticking with their philosophy. For Pearl, it has worked for the most part, but it’s also why it probably has hindered him from winning a championship and being more successful in the tournament because he gets stubborn. Again, that’s most coaches at these levels, they believe they know everything when in reality they really don’t. Not saying that Pearl is that and I have said he’s the best thing that has happened to our basketball program, but he does have some deficiencies when it comes to adjustments and coaching his team out of being complacent and having mental lapses.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:58 am to AUSCgrad2016
I'm not trying to be an a-hole, so please don't take this personally, but, do you even paragraphs, bro?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:58 am to AUSCgrad2016
quote:My man, you are way overthinking it. A normally 14 ppg had a huge night. He was defended well but continued to make tough, contested shots. As a bball player, you would know that good offense will always beat good defense. (Tough fade aways, contested step backs were just dropping for him- one shot hit every part of the rim and backboard and still dropped). Despite the fact he was on fire, Bruce and co could live with it because we were keeping others in check. And yes, I’m sure they thought he would revert back to his average like most players do as a game progresses. They weren’t going to scrap their game plan to double him and risk others catching open looks/confidence. You live with it and win the game like we did.
So again, that tells me that I think Pearl and the team have this line of thinking that he will eventually get cold and if he doesn’t, well I hope we can withstand that guy’s dominance, which is risky way to play. It’s why we lost against Yale, allowing that one guy to go off. But we got away with it last night because of how large of the deficit they were in and he didn’t have enough time to bring them all the way back. But yes, if you allow one guy to beat you, then that becomes a coaching adjustment issue.
We should have coasted to a 10-12 point win if not for some techs and other boneheaded plays.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 9:00 am
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:04 am to AUSCgrad2016
Last night was not rosy one little bit. I have always been on -guard about the 4 position, but I am scared we are about to start running into trouble at the 1 again if petitford doesnt revert out of his funk.
Truth be told when you say things like " I dont like this negative trend" the whole Auburn board will pushback. They will stand up to you like the old man standing up to Marshall Henderson. Saying it while we are about to earn the number one rank in the country actually paints you as the most unrealistic poster even though I believe your points make great sense. You strike me as overly cautious of getting your hopes up, and your pessimism to Broome's reaggravated shoulder may be the first clue.
I dont like many aspects of Bruce's coaching style and this board knows all about them. But by now I have grown accustomed to Bruce being who he is whether I like them or not. Last night wasnt the first lead he blew; there are others that he actually lost. He used to blow them thanks to low FT percentages, poor timeouts strategies, and playing careless with the ball As long as Bruce is Bruce you can bet I will always have a gripe but it is what it is..
Truth be told when you say things like " I dont like this negative trend" the whole Auburn board will pushback. They will stand up to you like the old man standing up to Marshall Henderson. Saying it while we are about to earn the number one rank in the country actually paints you as the most unrealistic poster even though I believe your points make great sense. You strike me as overly cautious of getting your hopes up, and your pessimism to Broome's reaggravated shoulder may be the first clue.
I dont like many aspects of Bruce's coaching style and this board knows all about them. But by now I have grown accustomed to Bruce being who he is whether I like them or not. Last night wasnt the first lead he blew; there are others that he actually lost. He used to blow them thanks to low FT percentages, poor timeouts strategies, and playing careless with the ball As long as Bruce is Bruce you can bet I will always have a gripe but it is what it is..
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 9:09 am
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:06 am to au4you
It’s actually not overthinking it. That’s a logical fallacy, accepting that well, he just went off and we can’t do anything about it, that is just straight up being rigid with the line of thinking that we really hope that guy gets cold because I don’t know what to do. That guy isn’t Step Curry or LeBron James, once in a generation player. That guy will probably never shoot like that again, so that tells you he can be stopped. It’s why you have to change your defense in order that one guy doesn’t take over. As I said earlier too, after he made a few shots in a row, that’s when you need to make adjustments, and especially at the end, there was no reason for him to even get the ball without being double teamed or someone all over him. As much as I like Broome, he had a poor night on the defensive side and got dominated by a mid player.
As for the other issues, as people keep saying “just boneheaded plays and being lazy” well that’s been my whole argument! This is a coaching issue again. Players play as they’re allowed to play. This is a senior laden team, no reason a team like Texas should have been within 16 points at the end. It’s again the trend we have seen from Pearl teams in the past couple of years, dominating most of the game then the last 10-12 minutes we allow teams to get back in the game and then we have to hold on and hope we can keep the lead and hit that other gear. All of this is unavoidable and correctable, which is the good news.
As for the other issues, as people keep saying “just boneheaded plays and being lazy” well that’s been my whole argument! This is a coaching issue again. Players play as they’re allowed to play. This is a senior laden team, no reason a team like Texas should have been within 16 points at the end. It’s again the trend we have seen from Pearl teams in the past couple of years, dominating most of the game then the last 10-12 minutes we allow teams to get back in the game and then we have to hold on and hope we can keep the lead and hit that other gear. All of this is unavoidable and correctable, which is the good news.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:09 am to michaeldwde
Sorry, on the phone so it’s difficult for me to see what it will look like once I post, so I will be more cognizant of this, thank you!
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:10 am to jangalang
I think some of yall expectations for this team are far too high after the pre conference play. We aren’t UCONN from the last two seasons. We are a great team with a maybe the best player in the country, but hell we really have one true point guard. We are going to lose some games with the SEC being what it is. We are also going to look bad at times and still probably win.
Lots of people need to chill out and hope we are good enough to get favorable seeding/locations in the tournament. Maybe win the SEC regular season?
Lots of people need to chill out and hope we are good enough to get favorable seeding/locations in the tournament. Maybe win the SEC regular season?
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 9:11 am
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:11 am to AUSCgrad2016
There are guys that go off against us. The rando yale guy went off on us. Maybe we play the odds that the players are not going to go immortal on us.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:12 am to AUSCgrad2016
You don't get out of your game plan when you are up double digits most of the game They were making just enough shots to stay in spitting distance with us. Maybe zone for a possession or two but a guy like Tre Johnson will dice up a zone imo
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:13 am to jangalang
It’s conference play. You scout the other team as much as do yourself.
No one in Maui was ready for the 2 bigs in the front court we had. There were 3 actions we ran that usually leads to an open 3 or a dunk by Cardwell. Texas recognized and defended it well. They took away the corner 3 on the opposite side from Broome’s post up. So Broome adjusted and went to Kelly instead which is shorter close out then the corner.
Chaney had a poor night on the offensive end. Dylan had a poor night on the offensive end. That might happen once or twice more this season because they bring energy every game.
This game isn’t close if the refs call the last 10 minutes like they did the first 30. If I’m not mistaken Texas shot 35 FTs. Ridiculous
No one in Maui was ready for the 2 bigs in the front court we had. There were 3 actions we ran that usually leads to an open 3 or a dunk by Cardwell. Texas recognized and defended it well. They took away the corner 3 on the opposite side from Broome’s post up. So Broome adjusted and went to Kelly instead which is shorter close out then the corner.
Chaney had a poor night on the offensive end. Dylan had a poor night on the offensive end. That might happen once or twice more this season because they bring energy every game.
This game isn’t close if the refs call the last 10 minutes like they did the first 30. If I’m not mistaken Texas shot 35 FTs. Ridiculous
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:14 am to AUSCgrad2016
quote:But we did do something about it. He was defended well most of the game. He made tough shots. We aren’t going to start throwing doubles to give up layups when the guy is draining contested fadeaways. Coaches live with that, especially at the college level.
It’s actually not overthinking it. That’s a logical fallacy, accepting that well, he just went off and we can’t do anything about it, that is just straight up being rigid with the line of thinking that we really hope that guy gets cold because I don’t know what to do
You’re thinking like a fan watching a game, not a coach coaching the game.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 9:15 am
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:14 am to au4you
No dude you have it all wrong we could have easily stopped that guy from having a career night if only we had made the obvious adjustment. All those coaches who let Michael Jordan and LeBron and Steph etc torch them all those years just didn't know ball
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:15 am to jangalang
BP's goal is always scheming the opponent's best player out of the game. Our whole defensive scout last year against Yale was schemed around Danny Wolf. He didn't really hurt us and Poulakidas went off.
One exception to this is Knecht last year who singlehandedly beat us. He was somewhat transcendent though.
One exception to this is Knecht last year who singlehandedly beat us. He was somewhat transcendent though.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:18 am to au4you
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I think some of yall expectations for this team are far too high after the pre conference play. We aren’t UCONN from the last two seasons
Amen! On any given night we can face off against a team that has more “talent” than this Auburn team. More NBA talent etc. The thing is this Auburn team knows who they are and plays hard. I try to say it in football, just because you wear orange and blue doesn’t make you more talented.
The expectation to play perfect is so dumb. College sports most of the time is which team makes the least amount of mistakes.
I have said a few times we have a great team, but it’s going to be very very difficult to win a national championship and anything less is going to have half the posters here thinking the season is a disappointment.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:19 am to CorchJay
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This game isn’t close if the refs call the last 10 minutes like they did the first 30. If I’m not mistaken Texas shot 35 FTs. Ridiculous
That is one more thing you can count on as Bruce fan. He will always get screwed by the refs and I am no conspiracy theorist. I have seen inferior teams like the one St Louis team maybe three years ago come into Auburn and get full-on home cooking against the home team resulting into a down to the wire game. Does not help that we usually have one or two players constantly jawing as well.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:21 am to jangalang
I agree that Chaney has been getting bodied lately with more athletic and bigger guys at his position, as you saw last night he couldn’t keep up with Kaluma. As for Pettiford, he actually had an ok game, much better than the last game at least. But yes, it is concerning that we just have two guards now since Pegues seems like he is done unless for an emergency or an injury.
As for the pushback, it’s expected. I don’t look at basketball through a fans lens but through a player’s lens, so I’m more critical and objective than others. I have a philosophy in basketball that if I know what can be fixed and how to fix it, then clearly our staff and coaches know, which is why it’s so frustrating to watch many times. And yes, I have accepted that Pearl’s teams for the most part are frustrating to watch because of his coaching philosophy, but it doesn’t mean I have to like what I see haha.
Finally, for Broome’s shoulder, it was being reported that it looked much worse than it actually was and going by what happened, yea, if we lose him, I stand by that it would be the end of our run for a title, that’s not pessimistic, that’s just reality, and if others think that’s not true and being negative, then I don’t know what to say to that. At the end of the day, this is a message board and I do enjoy talking basketball. I was ready to actually boast last night about how good we were playing until we decided to do our usual end of the games lapses and complacency which almost cost us the game. So believe it or not, I want to be able to be more positive, but right now, reality is saying that we are having bad habits creep back in from last year and that does concern me because we won’t be able to reach our potential if we don’t work these issues out quickly.
As for the pushback, it’s expected. I don’t look at basketball through a fans lens but through a player’s lens, so I’m more critical and objective than others. I have a philosophy in basketball that if I know what can be fixed and how to fix it, then clearly our staff and coaches know, which is why it’s so frustrating to watch many times. And yes, I have accepted that Pearl’s teams for the most part are frustrating to watch because of his coaching philosophy, but it doesn’t mean I have to like what I see haha.
Finally, for Broome’s shoulder, it was being reported that it looked much worse than it actually was and going by what happened, yea, if we lose him, I stand by that it would be the end of our run for a title, that’s not pessimistic, that’s just reality, and if others think that’s not true and being negative, then I don’t know what to say to that. At the end of the day, this is a message board and I do enjoy talking basketball. I was ready to actually boast last night about how good we were playing until we decided to do our usual end of the games lapses and complacency which almost cost us the game. So believe it or not, I want to be able to be more positive, but right now, reality is saying that we are having bad habits creep back in from last year and that does concern me because we won’t be able to reach our potential if we don’t work these issues out quickly.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:35 am to AUSCgrad2016
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, I have accepted that Pearl’s teams for the most part are frustrating to watch because of his coaching philosophy
What? You’re an Auburn fan and it’s frustrating to watch a Bruce coached team?
You aren’t breaking down the game. You are spewing your opinions no different than anyone else on the board. There are a lot of former players on this board.
As I have said I like you posting here and I think you can be a great basketball poster which is most welcomed. But long time Auburn basketball fans don’t want to hear shite negative about Auburn basketball especially in a win on the road. We lived through Eagles, Lebo, and Barbee.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:38 am to CorchJay
Pearl doesnt shite gold bro.
You aren't required to like every decision your coach makes.
You aren't required to like every decision your coach makes.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:43 am to jangalang
But to say it's frustrating to watch Pearl teams is silly.
Or maybe just miserable. Not sure what you're expecting but if you can't enjoy this you'd probably be better off just finding a different sport to watch
Or maybe just miserable. Not sure what you're expecting but if you can't enjoy this you'd probably be better off just finding a different sport to watch
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:44 am to jangalang
I don’t say that. It was direct response to the… it’s frustrating watching a Bruce coached team.
Bruce is essentially off limits. As it has been earned not given
Bruce is essentially off limits. As it has been earned not given
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