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Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:19 pm to AUFan2015
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AUBURN UNDERCOVER: What do you need to work on the most? You would know better than anyone.
KING: My technique at blocking.
So this means he may see the field by year 3?
I KNOW Morris uses his TEs in a different way, but I don't care if it's his offense or not, if he is calling plays or not, NO ONE touches the field on a Gus team if they can't block.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:24 pm to jangalang
Are we sure all these Texas state kids are who we want to build around? Not knocking the individual players but outside of QB or WR I'm not impressed with Texas talent. Very soft culture of football over the past 15-20 years especially at the high school level. This is just my coming from me but regardless of where we finish this recruiting cycle we will look back and say that 2021 class wasn't very good. IMO I would much rather focus on North Carolina, Virginia, and Maryland and get back to being the number 2 pick for Georgia players and the primary destination of Florida kids that want to get out of state.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:49 pm to auburn2eugene
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NO ONE touches the field on a Gus team if they can't block
As it should be. That's the way the cookie crumbles. Gus doesn't put blocking over any other skill but you have to be able to block at any position on offense or any particular play has the ability to fail because of one missed block or one injured QB because of one missed block. I know it doesn't fit the hate Gus narrative but every coach puts a priority on blocking from skilled position player. Every RB, TE, or WR when questioned what they need to work on most. I bet over 60% of the answers is blocking, followed by route running, then possibly getting quicker/stronger.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:21 pm to CorchJay
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Are we sure all these Texas state kids are who we want to build around? Not knocking the individual players but outside of QB or WR I'm not impressed with Texas talent. Very soft culture of football over the past 15-20 years especially at the high school level. This is just my coming from me but regardless of where we finish this recruiting cycle we will look back and say that 2021 class wasn't very good. IMO I would much rather focus on North Carolina, Virginia, and Maryland and get back to being the number 2 pick for Georgia players and the primary destination of Florida kids that want to get out of state.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:34 pm to auburn2eugene
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So this means he may see the field by year 3?
I KNOW Morris uses his TEs in a different way, but I don't care if it's his offense or not, if he is calling plays or not, NO ONE touches the field on a Gus team if they can't block.
Blocking at WR and TE is mostly effort over technique. Gotta find your guy and push the sled. He didn’t say he needs motivation to do it. Just probably isn’t well versed in blocking when he’s the #1 target on the field.
Extremely common problem for #1 targets out of high school. Says a lot that he’s talking about it.
For what it’s worth, the key link in all of these TE targets this cycle was pass catching ability. They’ve gone after mostly long, lean kids that catch a lot of balls. None were particularly great blockers. Past classes have been, though.
This post was edited on 6/15/20 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:52 am to jt33
quote:And 3* WR Brashard Smith who JLee says is our top Slot WR target if we miss on Leary.
Missing the WR Neville out of Texas and DE Shambre Jackson both as targets.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 4:18 pm to Weagle25
No sure what's funny. It's an opinion and a prediction looking at this class in the future. You have an argument against the opinion state it.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 4:28 pm to ellitor
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And 3* WR Brashard Smith who JLee says is our top Slot WR target if we miss on Leary.
Added Smith, Jackson, and Neville.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 5:05 pm to CorchJay
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Are we sure all these Texas state kids are who we want to build around? Not knocking the individual players but outside of QB or WR I'm not impressed with Texas talent. Very soft culture of football over the past 15-20 years especially at the high school level.
I think the laughing may have something to do with this hot take.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 5:23 pm to PubeCrab
Something like 10% of guys on NFL rosters last season were from Texas. 175 players or something like that. Many hundreds earn scholarships each year out of high school. All accounted for, probably several thousand on college football rosters any given season.
Won’t debate hard, soft, whatever trendy term we like now.
My only point here is that whatever small sample size you’d base the whole state’s football culture on would be comically small even if you froze it in time for one year. Expand it to 15-20 and it’s just a silly starting point for any discussion.
So yeah. I think I’ll leave it there
Won’t debate hard, soft, whatever trendy term we like now.
My only point here is that whatever small sample size you’d base the whole state’s football culture on would be comically small even if you froze it in time for one year. Expand it to 15-20 and it’s just a silly starting point for any discussion.
So yeah. I think I’ll leave it there
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 6/16/20 at 5:45 pm to CorchJay
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No sure what's funny.
1) Basing your prediction on the state the recruits are from
2) wanting to go to Maryland, North Carolina, and Virginia instead
3) wanting to be 2nd option for Georgia recruits
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:13 pm to Weagle25
You totally misunderstood what I was saying. I was saying I'm not that impressed with Texas players outside of QB and WR's. It is my opinion that Virginia, Maryland, and North Carolina play better brand of football then Texas high schools so higher ranked players in those states are better then higher ranked players in Texas. In other words I think Texas players are generally vastly overrated in general because they are soft and football culture in the state of Texas is finesse football now. It's why all the teams that recruit solely in Texas have a difficult time being worth a damn on defense. Being the second option in Georgia was not about being second to georgia specifically but if there is a top 20 player we were normally the school they went to for many years but not it seems many are going to UF, bama, UT, UGA, Clemson, South Carolina. It wasn't much of stretch to split most of the the top 20 Georgia players with UGA with an occasional other team getting a player or 2. That was my point.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:21 pm to CorchJay
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teams that recruit solely in Texas have a difficult time being worth a damn on defense.
Not really recruiting for defense in Texas. Mostly skill position players plus an OL or two.
Georgia is doing a really good job of locking down their in state talent this cycle. I think a lot of that has to do with COVID-19 travel restrictions for both coaches and players.
Adding Texas has allowed us to keep pace despite probably having a down year in GA. I like targeting GA and FL but I’ll happily dip into other states when we need to
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:37 pm to CorchJay
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You totally misunderstood what I was saying. I was saying I'm not that impressed with Texas players outside of QB and WR's. It is my opinion that Virginia, Maryland, and North Carolina play better brand of football then Texas high schools so higher ranked players in those states are better then higher ranked players in Texas. In other words I think Texas players are generally vastly overrated in general because they are soft and football culture in the state of Texas is finesse football now.
Understood all that. It’s why I laughed.
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It's why all the teams that recruit solely in Texas have a difficult time being worth a damn on defense.
Where are the players we got from Texas playing?
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Being the second option in Georgia was not about being second to georgia specifically but if there is a top 20 player we were normally the school they went to for many years but not it seems many are going to UF, bama, UT, UGA, Clemson, South Carolina.
It’s always been like that
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:42 pm to Weagle25
And we’re talking about 3-5 guys out of a class of 25. It’s not that many kids. If half don’t work out of this small group I’m not sure we’ll really notice
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:59 pm to TheJones
To finish my thoughts is regardless if it's 3-5 kids. The state of recruiting for the Big 6 in the SEC is you can't miss on 3-5 kids regardless where they are from. You can finish 8th in the country in recruiting and be 5th in the SEC and not be close to a level playing field over the course of a 4 year recruiting cycle. I've stated this before I think. I consider .9200 and above recruits big boy SEC starter level talent. .9450 and above I consider All-SEC talent level if they continue to grow and perform. Anything lower then .9200 should be depth unless you really just find a very underrated player.
To put into context players rated .9200 and above on last years rosters, Bama had over 50, UGA mid 40's, LSU mid 30's, UF and AU mid 20's and aTm low 20's. To that I will add you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shite.
To put into context players rated .9200 and above on last years rosters, Bama had over 50, UGA mid 40's, LSU mid 30's, UF and AU mid 20's and aTm low 20's. To that I will add you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shite.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 7:11 pm to CorchJay
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for the Big 6 in the SEC is you can't miss on 3-5 kids regardless where they are from
Bama and UGA relies on missing at least 3-5 a class to continuously sign 25+ each year with only 85 roster spots.
If anything, we should strive for the same. So I have to disagree there too
Posted on 6/16/20 at 7:47 pm to TheJones
Number of recruits from Texas since 2017 for big 6 SEC schools (current class uncounted)
Alabama - 9
LSU - 14
UGA & UF both with 5 each
Alabama - 9
LSU - 14
UGA & UF both with 5 each
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:42 pm to TheJones
Gus went into Mississippi for recruits the past couple of years. With both of their state schools being excited about new coaches (and losing Woodson) that was going to be tougher moving forward. So now he's taking advantage of Texas ties. I dig it.
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