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re: Georgia State at AU Prediction

Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:01 am to
Posted by SingleMalt1973
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:01 am to
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AUSCgrad2016


Posted by auburnnyc94
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:03 am to
Yeah, I just disagree. I think Cardwell is a coachable dude that will adjust his playing style accordingly.

And our offense even without Broome presents tons of challenges for opponents.

Obviously, I don't think it's that we won't miss a beat.. we will have our issues. But we've got weapons.

Bruce Pearl says "we've got weapons" after dismissing players from team on weapons charges
This post was edited on 12/18/24 at 9:05 am
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:05 am to
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vs. Purdue (probable loss)
vs. Monmouth (win)
vs. Missouri ( probable win)
@ Texas (loss)
@ South Carolina (toss up)
vs. MSU (toss up)
@UGAly (toss up)
vs. UTk (probable loss)
@ LSWho (toss up)


Posted by AUSCgrad2016
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:06 am to
What part do you disagree with? We are an average team without Broome. It would be like if UAT lost Sears, if UTk lost Zeigler or if Duke lost Flagg. Those teams would be ok, but wouldn’t be anywhere close to what they are with those players. That’s Auburn with and without Broome.
Posted by AUSCgrad2016
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:11 am to
On a great night, Cardwell will get us 9-11 points. He doesn’t have anywhere near the skill set as Broome. And the reason he gets his looks is because all of the focus is on Broome. The same thing goes with our wing/guard play. Opposing teams are so focused on stopping Broome that our other players get to play freely and get great looks. You take Broome out, and now it is a level playing field. Yes, we have talented guys, but I think it’s more of those guys looking really good because they are not the focal point of the team. It becomes completely different when you have to be the guy now and teams are game planning against you. Also, as you saw last night, our rebounding will take a hit as well, which means more offensive rebounds for the other team, meaning more second chances to score. It’s a domino effect all around unfortunately.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:13 am to
You are correcrt but I hope you are not correct about the W's and L's

Truth be told we have already lost once. We very well could lose some more without Broome.

The Chaney fans are going to get to pound their chests if Chaney does his part during the duration. Our frontcourt is for sure underwhelming now.

With that said I believe the injury has a silver lining. It is adversity. It keeps them on their edge, not allowing them to get complacent. Teaches them how to win without broome.

This post was edited on 12/18/24 at 9:17 am
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:13 am to
I personally would guess this roster with no Broome is around 6 seed in terms of quality as opposed to the best team in the country. So a significant drop off but still a well above average basketball team.

That's just auburnnyc's 2 cents based on no data other than knowing we are well above average at the 2 and 3 spots if not outright elite, slightly above average at the 1, average at the 4 (if Chaney can stay out of foul trouble certainly better than average but I'll believe it when I see it), and a Cardwell/Turtle rotation at the 5 is probably slightly above average in the SEC if Cardwell adjusts.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:13 am to
How many average teams lose their best player and beat any team by 30 in the second half? Don’t say it was Ga St cause a healthy UK beat them by 29 at Rupp. Besides Cardwell didn’t play much due to early foul trouble, Kelly, Jones and Pettiford are hitting at 45 percent or better from 3 which is Jared Harper and Bryce Brown numbers. Also it wasn’t like Chaney came in and score 10-12 points he had damn near 30. Caldwell just needs to stay out of foul trouble.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:14 am to
Ok thanks for your opinion
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49986 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:17 am to
AUSC has been sharing his basketball opinions all year long and a good basketball poster.

Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9894 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:20 am to
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UAT lost Sears, if UTk lost Zeigler or if Duke lost Flagg


My personal opinion on these 3 is that Duke would free fall. UAT and UTk would still be damn good.
Posted by AUSCgrad2016
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:20 am to
First, I’ve seen it countless times where a star player got hurt early on and the team rallies and wins in a blowout. Secondly, it was against GA State, a bad team. And yes, Chaney had a great game offensively. His issues are staying out of foul trouble, which he has a difficult time doing against top competition. Same with Cardwell. So, Pearl will have to use a different defensive strategy in order for those players to stay on the court. As for our good shooting percentage from 3, a lot of that has to do with Broome being the focus and teams having to double him, leaving someone with a great look. That’s not going to happen anymore now. Our wings and guards will have to take over. The Purdue game will be a test to see what this team will look like without Broome.
Posted by CallFoy
Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:21 am to
Chaney really stepped up and played beyond what is typically expected of him. Was proud of how he stayed out of foul trouble. Only picked up 1 in the first half and went past the 10 min mark in the 2nd before picking up #2. Well done Chaney.

Dylan promptly collected 3 fouls in the first 13 min of play. He's got to play smarter, especially under the Broomeless circumstances.
Posted by ShredSquatch
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:23 am to
Shitty ones as well… average without JB LMAO And got the kiss of death endorsement.

Sucks to have JB out but we’ll be fine!

WDE!!!
~ss
Posted by AUSCgrad2016
Member since Apr 2024
179 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:25 am to
I agree that it does make the players having to not rely on one player now and see what they are made of when they don’t have a safety net anymore. And I think Chaney has done great when he is on the court, it’s just that he fouls so often that he doesn’t impact the game very often. As you saw last night and a few other games, when he is not in foul trouble, he is better than JWill. But again, he just doesn’t know how to defend without fouling apparently. And with Cardwell, as I said earlier, he only gets good looks because the focus is on Broome downlow. He will now be the go to guy and that makes me worried. We will have to hope our wings and guards shoot lights out to have a chance in SEC play.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
20939 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:26 am to
Dylan is a damn good passer as well. Not that he will get double teamed by the defense will have to sag. Can go high low post with Chaney and Cardwell. Hudson has a nice little offensive skill set he just isn’t a rim protector like Johni. And on defense CMo can give 6-8 more minutes a game and play the 3,4, and 5 in stretches. He’s done it before.

The conference schedule is brutal but I just don’t see us going 4-5 our next 9 games with or without Broome.

Hell who knows what might happen we might find Pegues is made for the high pick and roll with Dylan and Chaney and he gets going offensively putting him in sets that aren’t so stagnant for his position.

My prediction is anything can and will happen. Give me 14 conference wins and I think we win the SEC and are a 1 seed. Move down a seed with each loss past 4 conference losses. 5 loses a 2 seed, 6, a 3, 7 loses probably a 5 seed, 8 a 6, 9 losses probably an 8 seed. So almost 1 for 1 in my opinion considering how our NET and KenPom will be unless we just lay turds in our losses
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9894 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:27 am to
I agree with you on all the difficulties we will face without JB. What you are discounting is that players can adjust and thrive in new roles.

A good example of that (among countless other examples) is actually our guy Chaney last year @UGA when Jaylin was hurt. 27 minutes and only 3 fouls. 16 points on 6 of 9 shooting. BP asked and he delivered.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49986 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:27 am to
Auburn fans that cling to sunshine are already in preservation mode making me believe that the tires are falling off the bus now.
Posted by AUSCgrad2016
Member since Apr 2024
179 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:29 am to
I think that’s reasonable. I see us more of an 7-9 seed personally. I just think Broome makes our players so much better and allows them to be much better. Now, they don’t have that safety net and more responsibility will be on them to make plays. We will have to make up 21 points a game now, that’s what we lost, along with finding 10-12 rebounds as well to make up for his loss. I think the front court will be secondary now. I like our wings and guards. The X factors will be Chaney and Kelly. Chaney needs to stay out of foul trouble and if Kelly can be consistent with his shot, then we have a chance.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9894 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:31 am to
Yeah Cardwell will not be providing any scoring other than catching lobs. Might free up Chaney to be a little bit more of a focal point IF he can stay on the floor. You're playing primarily through Tahaad, Kelly, CBM, and Chaney.. and Denver needs to keep hitting open looks. He's been scorching the net lately.
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