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Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:28 am to
Posted by ellitor
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:28 am to
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I think we win, but both teams were historically bad last year... and we'll have some kinks to iron out in the 1st game of an entirely new coaching staff.
We also have far superior raw talent in every way than them too though.
Posted by ellitor
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:28 am to
NM. SORRY!
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 8:29 am
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:32 am to
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We also have far superior raw talent in every way than them too though.


two things with regards to 'raw talent'

1. Last year's results show we don't have as much talent as we all thought.
2. The talent gap can be overcome with matchups, coaching, experience, luck, etc.

Again, I think we win... most of my reasoning is based on talent, depth, and home field advantage. But this will be a tighter matchup than most want to admit.

ETA: i'll gladly eat my crow sunday morning if we win by 14+... i just don't see it our first time out the gate with Malzahn.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 8:35 am
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:35 am to
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1. Last year's results show we don't have as much talent as we all thought.


No it didn't.

We have had a ton 10 recruiting class the last 3 years. Unless, Auburn signed the shittiest of the Top players i think last year showed our coaching shortcomings.

We had a HC that couldnt win without his OC and a new OC that is showing at his second gig, that he has no idea what he is doing.
Posted by atlau
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:37 am to
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We had a HC that couldnt win without his OC and a new OC that is showing at his second gig, that he has no idea what he is doing.


And don't forget a new DC whose defense and schemes were too hard for the players to grasp in a single season.
Posted by joeyb147
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:46 am to
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but both teams were historically bad last year
You obviously don't know shite about Washington State.

They went 1-11 just 4 years ago. That one win being an OT thriller to SMU. 0-9 in conference. Finished last in the PAC-10 in Total Defense, Total Offense, Scoring Defense, Scoring Offense, Turnover Margin, Sacks, TFL, Sacks Allowed, TOP, KO returns, etc.

The 2012 team would probably crush that team.

Oh, and WSU hasn't had a winning season since 2003.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 8:49 am
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:48 am to
so in other words, historically bad?... jesus christ you're a bitch.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:52 am to
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so in other words, historically bad?...


In other words, last year was the norm.
Posted by joeyb147
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:54 am to
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so in other words, historically bad?
So it looks like you don't know what "historically bad" means.
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jesus christ you're a bitch.
Awwwww, aren't you adorable. Nothing else to add so you resort to childish name calling? Maybe you need to take a break from this website if you can't handle actual discussion with facts and such without bleeding all over the place.
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:55 am to
yet they somehow managed to beat a BCS-level team.

I'm not arguing WSU didn't suck last year... and yes, they've sucked since mike price left. Doesn't change my opinion that saturday's game will be close and that joey's a bitch.
Posted by LanierSpots
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:55 am to
I told you guys already. We will win this game easily. Dont sweat it.



Respect my experience






Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:57 am to
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yet they somehow managed to beat a BCS-level team.


So did LA-MO...a team that could not even beat lowly Auburn.
Posted by lowspark12
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:57 am to
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So it looks like you don't know what "historically bad" means.


enlighten me.
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:59 am to
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So did LA-MO...a team that could not even beat lowly Auburn


it felt like a loss
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 9:00 am to
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 9:02 am to
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it felt like a loss


I am sure to most pessimist, it did.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 9:03 am to
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and that joey's a bitch.
Twice? Wow, really getting creative this morning, huh?





Anyways, I've wasted enough time with this child and his temper tantrum.


Back to actual discussion about the game.
5 Players to Watch on WSU Offense
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1. Connor Halliday, QB, 6-4, 190, Jr.
Forced to play in a time-share last season, the job is now Halliday's alone after an improved performance this offseason that won him the battle over Austin Apodaca. Halliday is capable of putting up big numbers in Leach's offense, but he struggled at times with his accuracy and decision-making last year, completing just 52.1 percent of his passes and tossing 13 interceptions in 290 attempts last year. Another year in Leach's system should help, though, and Halliday, who threw for 1,878 yards and 15 touchdowns, will hold the key to the offense against Auburn.

2. Gunnar Eklund, LT, 6-7, 300, So.
Eklund, a former walk-on who grew into his big frame after arriving at Washington State, started seven games as a redshirt freshman last season before breaking a bone in his wrist, and he's going to be one of the de facto leaders of an offensive line that has to play much better if the Cougars' offense is going to take a step forward after allowing 57 sacks last season. Eklund will likely be matched up mostly against Ken Carter, Nosa Eguae and possibly Carl Lawson, and if he can keep those three from getting pressure, Auburn's secondary will have to cover an awfully long time.

3. Domonique Williams, WR, 6-2, 192, So.
Washington State will use a bunch of different receivers in the passing game, but Williams is the game-breaker, the player with the ability to get deep and stretch Auburn's secondary vertically. Williams caught 34 passes for 546 yards last season, and his role increased after the Cougars lost Marquess Wilson. When the Cougars need to stretch the field, Williams will likely be option No. 1.

4. Teondray Caldwell, RB, 5-9, 198, So.
Washington State has talked a lot about improving its running game this season, and that starts with Caldwell, the team's leading returning rusher with 269 yards. A diminutive player, Caldwell is more likely to beat defenders with his speed and agility, and he has to provide an extra threat for the Cougars' offense, or Auburn will be able to simply sit back in coverage and pin its ears back to go after the passer.

5. Brett Bartolone, 5-10, 187, So.
Leach's offense always has a savvy, smaller receiver who does the work underneath, a role made famous by Wes Welker and Danny Amendola during Leach's days at Tech. A smaller player, Bartolone is most likely to be Halliday's checkdown receiver, finding holes in the zone and trying to pick up yardage after Halliday's pressured in the backfield. On third-and-mid-range plays or third-and-short, expect Bartolone to be a key target on Saturday.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 9:08 am to
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enlighten me.
He already did in his initial reply. If you did not see the enlightenment then with the easy way he explained it, then
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 9:09 am to
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5. Brett Bartolone, 5-10, 187, So.
Leach's offense always has a savvy, smaller receiver who does the work underneath, a role made famous by Wes Welker and Danny Amendola during Leach's days at Tech. A smaller player, Bartolone is most likely to be Halliday's checkdown receiver, finding holes in the zone and trying to pick up yardage after Halliday's pressured in the backfield. On third-and-mid-range plays or third-and-short, expect Bartolone to be a key target on Saturday.


This kid doing crossing patterns may be an issue for our LBers.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22480 posts
Posted on 8/27/13 at 9:10 am to
that's fine... WSU wasn't 'historically' bad, they were just bad.

i'll edit my original post.
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