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re: Buccees Mascot Coaching Edition (Former Jet Tracking)
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:35 pm to Poker Dough
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:35 pm to Poker Dough
quote:Not really. Unknown vs. known is used to make decisions, all day, every day.
Kinda works for any coach
Sanders is completely unknown as to what kind of success he will have, even where he is now. Much less at a light-year leap to the next level. Any other coach mentioned since this thread was started, has a massive record to compare.
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Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:43 pm to greygoose
Can the unknown with the “it” factor in spades be that much worst than the guy with the ballyhooed record at boyz?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:45 pm to greygoose
So why isn't gus winning the conference at ucf? Won it at Auburn, as a known commodity isn't it guaranrteed he will there?
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:47 pm to jangalang
Pete, I like the red koolaid…especially since I’m just a cultish sheep. 
This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 6:14 am
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:52 pm to jangalang
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Pete, I like the red. Especially that means I’m just a cultish sheep
or a bamma fan...
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:56 pm to slacker130
quote:Id rather have Rhule or Bill Obrien. SMD
slacker130
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:01 pm to jangalang
quote:Ah! The famous "it factor". I totally forgot about that undefined term, that everyone recognizes.
Can the unknown with the “it” factor in spades be that much worst than the guy with the ballyhooed record at boyz?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:01 pm to jangalang
quote:you got that right. Add in a fricking moron that has been wrong with every opinion he has had for the past 6 years. A childish twat that has been banned here for being a sorry arse pos. And an arm-chair QB that doesnt know shite about the game. Your talent evals are trash and you upvote your own posts like a bitch.
I’m just a cultish sheep
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:02 pm to greygoose
quote:While I share some of your skepticism on Deion, I don’t think “completely unknown” is fair.
Sanders is completely unknown as to what kind of success he will have, even where he is now.
He has shown he can clearly coach at the SWAC level. He took over a moribund program and had them competing for a championship in a very short period of time, under exceedingly difficult conditions. That’s not nothing.
Still wouldn’t put him at the top of my list, but I’d be much more willing to hand him the keys than to hire some has-been like Freezus or BO’B.
Still holding out hope we make an all-out run at Aranda. Wouldn’t disagree with Rhule or Urb (despite reservations, I think he can still build a program into a CFP contender in short order). And if we were following the Arky/Pittman model, I’d hire Rod Garner.
But Prime doesn’t scare me as much as others with more experience under their belts.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:08 pm to Poker Dough
quote:Why didn't Jackson State beat South Carolina State in their bowl game? I mean shite! One team had a coach with the "IT FACTOR"!
o why isn't gus winning the conference at ucf? Won it at Auburn, as a known commodity isn't it guaranrteed he will there?
Consider this, we don't have any idea if Sanders can even handle the pressure that comes with coaching in the premier conference, and at one of it's premier schools. Do you think the pressure is the same at Jackson State, as it is at Auburn? I'm not saying he can or can't, but we have absolutely nothing to go on, seeing as he has never coached a down of football at any ANY D-1 school. Hell, Gus looked like an escaped mental patient in a bunch of games, and he had already been coaching D-1 football for a long time.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:22 pm to greygoose
He has handled any pressure sent his way so far. I'm sure there's pressure playing in the Super Bowl and World Series. But those probably pale in comparison to coaching in the conference USA championship game like Bill Clark did
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:26 pm to allin2010
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Someone has to say it, it will NOT be Prime. (It will be Freeze)
Obligatory
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:29 pm to AuburnTigers
quote:
you got that right. Add in a fricking moron that has been wrong with every opinion he has had for the past 6 years. A childish twat that has been banned here for being a sorry arse pos. And an arm-chair QB that doesnt know shite about the game. Your talent evals are trash and you upvote your own posts like a bitch.
This is so pitiful
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:39 pm to FearlessFreep
quote:I agree that he has saw some extremely recent success where he is now, but 17 games coaching at a college isn't exactly a record worth noting. For example, look at what Bill Clark did at Jacksonville State.
While I share some of your skepticism on Deion, I don’t think “completely unknown” is fair.
He has shown he can clearly coach at the SWAC level. He took over a moribund program and had them competing for a championship in a very short period of time, under exceedingly difficult conditions. That’s not nothing.
quote:I would never just use his one year in D-2 ball, to advocate for him to be hired. That would be rediculous, but that's exactly what others are doing with someone else.
During his only season as head coach at Jacksonville State, Clark led the Gamecocks to their first playoff victories, 49 school records, 13 OVC records and three NCAA records.
quote:To me, that's makes no sense. Freeze and BOB have records to look at, that dwarf a 2nd year coach in the FCS.
Still wouldn’t put him at the top of my list, but I’d be much more willing to hand him the keys than to hire some has-been like Freezus or BO’B.
quote:Ok, this is where you lost me. Aranda would be a home-run hire. He checks all the boxes, as would Rhule. No doubt Urban can coach, but that dude is a walking, talking time bomb for anybody that hires him. Left FL due to "health reasons", then took the HC job at OSU where, after some success, was directly involved with a wife beating controversy. Then he goes on the coach the Jags. They sucked balls on the field, and he goes out and plays grab arse at bars with girls younger than his kids. Garner? I think he's a damn good coach and recruiter. Put a lot of dudes in the NFL, and has a ton of SEC experience, but I have never heard him mentioned as a possible HC anywhere. Then again, his resume would bitch-slap Sanders.
Still holding out hope we make an all-out run at Aranda. Wouldn’t disagree with Rhule or Urb (despite reservations, I think he can still build a program into a CFP contender in short order). And if we were following the Arky/Pittman model, I’d hire Rod Garner.
quote:With a couple of high-end recruits and 17 games of college coaching experience, you really have no realistic idea how he would do at this level, and that should scare you.
But Prime doesn’t scare me as much as others with more experience under their belts.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:43 pm to AuburnTigers
quote:
Rhule or Bill Obrien
Wish I could downvote more than once.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:45 pm to warcry
quote:True, who needs ex-NFL coaches. what do they know about the game anyhow
Wish I could downvote more than once.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:49 pm to Poker Dough
quote:You really think the pressure of winning at a D-2 school where your salary is $300K/year, is the same at one of the top SEC West schools where the salary is anywhere from $5-10 MILLION/year and your two main rivals are Alabama and UGA, and you are EXPECTED to beat them on a consistent basis?
He has handled any pressure sent his way so far. I'm sure there's pressure playing in the Super Bowl and World Series. But those probably pale in comparison to coaching in the conference USA championship game like Bill Clark did
Playing a position on a team, and being IN CHARGE OF THE WHOLE PROGRAM, are two very, very different things.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:49 pm to AuburnTigers
quote:so successful in the NFL too, amirite?
True, who needs ex-NFL coaches. what do they know about the game anyhow
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:51 pm to warcry
quote:He won more playoff games than Urban and Saban combined.
so successful in the NFL too, amirite?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:53 pm to greygoose
So coaching in the conference usa championship game is more pressure? BOB couldn't handle the pressure of an NFL season
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