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re: Buccees Mascot Coaching Edition (Former Jet Tracking)

Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:55 pm to
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20858 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:55 pm to
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Other jobs will open up and not have the reputation our board and boosters have subjected us to. Napier is a good example.


There’s already a lot of Florida people calling for Napier’s head.
Posted by Lee County Tiger
I Haz Sources
Member since Oct 2009
33357 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:55 pm to
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What makes you so sure that this will be how it is? The 1 season and 4 games he's coached at the collegiate level, with his son at QB?


I said Deion type recruiter that time.

And he's coached two "full" seasons. FCS played in the spring of 2021, along with the fall of 2021 as well.

But I digress. The trend with coaching hires is about to shift I think, and you'll end up seeing more Shane Beamer types get hired to HC jobs instead of G5 coaches going forward.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14780 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:06 pm to
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There’s already a lot of Florida people calling for Napier’s head.
No doubt. George Carlin said it best:
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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14780 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:24 pm to
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I said Deion type recruiter that time.

And he's coached two "full" seasons. FCS played in the spring of 2021, along with the fall of 2021 as well.

But I digress. The trend with coaching hires is about to shift I think, and you'll end up seeing more Shane Beamer types get hired to HC jobs instead of G5 coaches going forward.

Over the course of this thread, people have expressed their opinions. I may have pushed the line on civility towards those opinions, but I do agree with your post. We have to get someone who can recruit. Harsin can't/won't. That is clear. The issue I have with Sanders is, he has absolutely nothing to go on, that tells me that he is a good coach. The argument back at me, seems to be that he will hire good football coaches, and just "manage" them. That sounds like wishful thinking, at best. Are the best coaches going to line up to work for someone that has been coaching less than 2 seasons, or are they going to take jobs with more established coaches at the same level of football? Do you see I recently fired HC coming to work for Sanders over someone like Saban, Kirby, or Kelly? Yeah, he's got a few decent coaches to buy in, where he is now, but why is that? Probably due to the same pitch he's giving the HS kids. Let's build up the HBCU. Money and upward mobility are the two most important things to hiring an assistant at this level.
Posted by GruntAu
Member since Jul 2017
753 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:07 pm to
Assistant coaches will go where talent is. It makes them look good. Has there been a coach that looked bad at bama or uga, since Kirby got it rolling? If a coach falls on hard times and looks finished he goes to bama and is looked upon as the next great thing. Why? Talent! Whoever can bring in real talent Will eventually bring in talented coaches.
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9906 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:39 pm to
Assistant coaches would love to work for a HC that allows, and trusts, them to implement THIER plan and system without the HC meddling. Look back at Gus, were coaches lining up to work for him?
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14780 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:24 pm to
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Assistant coaches would love to work for a HC that allows, and trusts, them to implement THIER plan and system without the HC meddling. Look back at Gus, were coaches lining up to work for him?
You are kidding, right? The former assistants Gus had, Steele, Muschamp, T-Wil, Garner, Cadillac..I'm sure I'm missing some others, those are just off the top of my head.

I'm no Gus fan boy, but he had much better assistants than we do now, and way better than anything at Jackson State.
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9906 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:31 pm to
All but 1 of those are defensive coaches, which side of the ball does Gus control?

Cadillac's only previous experience was at IMG Academy.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 10:32 pm
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14780 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:35 pm to
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Cadillac's only previous experience was at IMG Academy.


So you are onboard with giving him the HC job? Because, he's been coaching college football longer than your current choice!
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9906 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:42 pm to
Have you really looked at some of the coaches at Jackson State? I'd take their DC over ours any time, and over many we've had in the past. I'd take thier TE coach over ours, he developed Pitts at Florida.

He has a coach with over 35 years experience, many of them in the SEC. He has a DB coach who I'd take too.

Like someone told you earlier...research
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9906 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:43 pm to
Show me where I said Cadillac should be HC. I will wait.....

You really do a great job being an example of the type person George Carlin was talking about in your post earlier
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 10:48 pm
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14780 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:15 pm to
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Show me where I said Cadillac should be HC. I will wait.....

You really do a great job being an example of the type person George Carlin was talking about in your post earlier


I'm really starting to question your IQ.

You disrespect Cadillac by pointing out he coached at IMG Acacemy and started his college coaching career at A frickING SEC SCHOOL, IN 2O19. Remind me, what was "Coach Prime" doing in 2019? Hell, what SEC school tried to hire him ever?
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9906 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:27 pm to
I question your IQ. You mentioned him (and T-Will) as a top assistant under Gus, then mentioned him in the same breath as coaches who have previously been HCs, have had long careers before Auburn and some are still coaching. I was pointing out that 1 was not like the other. I was also pointing out the irony of YOU saying he was a top hire after only coacing in HS. You really are painfully dumb.

Again, shining example of the people Carlin was talking about.

Done engaging a fricking idiot. Everyone on here sees how stupid you are
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 11:29 pm
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21504 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 1:26 am to
I got a weird feeling goose is gonna get a timeout soon.
Posted by Niner
Member since Apr 2019
2033 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 5:51 am to
Is there a way to give a timeout specific to a thread?

I see like 10 new replies and at least half of them are useless pissing matches.
Posted by Je23Mo
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
693 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 7:12 am to
They could lock this one, but you better believe the same opinions will trickle over onto another thread or two.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52459 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 7:33 am to
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Are the best coaches going to line up to work for someone that has been coaching less than 2 seasons, or are they going to take jobs with more established coaches at the same level of football?

Deion has already proven he can get a good coaching staff relative to where he is at. His coaching staff at BFE with no drinking water is actually superb.

Are you implying Clark or Bob can actually lure the best coaches to work for them?
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9906 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 7:35 am to
Sorry I engaged him again. Wasted my, and more importantly, everyone else's time
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9906 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 7:37 am to
He has some coaches over there we could use at Auburn.

Could you imagine spending $40+ million to fore Gus, Harsin, and both staffs out just to replace them with Bill Clark and his UAB staff?
This post was edited on 9/29/22 at 7:47 am
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
12113 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 7:47 am to
Yes. Stop feeding the troll and it’ll work itself out.
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