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re: AU BBall Thread : Trainwrecked at 18-14

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Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:05 pm to
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This is absolutely true but you didn't give the examples that show this


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Hell, he even let Bowers be a point guard last ye


Here's one. You must have skipped right over it when you actually responded to it
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:19 pm to
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wut?


You missed the rule changes on how fouls are called? You can't full court press anymore. They'll call a foul. He is absolutely correct.
Posted by warau
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:27 pm to
Gene, please look at the defensive rankings when Bruce was at UT. They sucked. I still think he can and will do some good things here but defense has never been his strength.
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:34 pm to
Of all the things to criticize, you pick playing Bowers as an emergency PG?
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:37 pm to
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Here's one. You must have skipped right over it when you actually responded to it


Maybe if your parents didn't feed you paint chips as a child you'd have seen me address this point

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He literally was choosing between Bowers and a walkon who got torched frequently
This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 10:42 pm
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:39 pm to
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You missed the rule changes on how fouls are called? You can't full court press anymore. They'll call a foul. He is absolutely correct.


Don't bother trying to explain things to Chex. He clearly doesn't bother to learn shite about Auburn basketball
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 10:59 pm to
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Of all the things to criticize, you pick playing Bowers as an emergency PG?
it left the worst mark on my memory. Will never forget watching our Center dribble down the court and throw up the wildest shots, brick layups, throw passes to no one, shoot threes with a five percent chance of making it

Worst player i have ever watched. And he had more double doubles than anyone else on the team. It was fricking painful watching him play and Bruce let him do it.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:01 pm to
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Don't bother trying to explain things to Chex. He clearly doesn't bother to learn shite about Auburn basketball
Shut up dickhead.

I hadnt heard that running a full court press is a foul now in basketball. Crazy, i swear i saw Alabama do it to us and almost come back to win in TTown a couple weeks ago.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:02 pm to
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He literally was choosing between Bowers and a walkon who got torched frequently
oh, so your opinion.

Paint chips? Really? Grow the frick up kid
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:03 pm to
You won't see anyone running a full court press for an entire game anymore. You'll have players with two fouls early with swiftness with the rule changes. Refs have called over 50 fouls in each of our last three home games. I couldn't imagine how many they'd call if we pressed all game.
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Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:04 pm to
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You won't see anyone running a full court press for an entire game anymore. You'll have players with two fouls early with swiftness with the rule changes.
wait, so its not a foul to run a full court press?

Refs have called an insane amount of fouls on Auburn for years now, which leads back to lack of discipline and poor defense. All coachable
This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 11:07 pm
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:05 pm to
It's not effective when they call touch fouls. Stop being dense.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:07 pm to
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It's not effective when they call touch fouls. Stop being dense.
teach kids how to play defense without fouling. Does Louisville still press or do they only play half court defense?
Posted by AA7
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:08 pm to
If you run it the whole game your entire team will end up in foul trouble by the second media timeout. This isn't hard to understand. You've already made it painfully obvious that you don't really watch college basketball.

Up tempo coaches are having to adjust. We will just have to see if Bruce is able to do that.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:09 pm to
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If you run it the whole game
please quote me where i said the whole game. Just once.

You cant.
Posted by AA7
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:10 pm to
So your argument is that we don't press at all?
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:14 pm to
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So your argument is that we don't press at all?
my argument is that Bruce is a good recruiter, but overrated as a coach. He does not teach defense, rebounding or discipline.

He doesnt press enough to force turnovers even when he is down double digits. Sure he uses in-bounds pressure to slow the ball down, but rarely do i see an attempt to trap, take away passing lanes and apply pressure sans the end of the game. He was known for his pressure...where is it?
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:21 pm to
We're top 25 in opponent turnovers per game. Pressing isn't the problem. Guys are constantly out of position and get lost defensively. My biggest problem with Bruce this year is lack of adjustments when we see something we weren't expecting. He's made numerous comments about someone doing something they haven't seen all year. He needs to figure out how to not let that completely take us out of games.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:24 pm to
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wait, so its not a foul to run a full court press?


If you watched even one close game this year, you'd see that they call games differently and let contact go in the final minutes.


There is a reason no coach known for full court pressing currently employs it the whole game
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:29 pm to
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it the whole game
there's that "whole game" angle. I've addressed that already.

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If you watched even one close game this year,
quite presumptuous of you, and condescending.

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you'd see that they call games differently
hand checks, yes.

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let contact go in the final minutes.

how would we know if they dont allow some contact during pressure situations? We dont fricking do it. Thats the damn point
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