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re: 2018 Football Recruiting Thread -- Final OP Update Edition

Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by AuburnCPA
Member since May 2008
18821 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:45 pm to
yall are probably right. No need in melting anymore. Just accept the reality of being second fiddle. Especially since Saban is signed through 2025.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 2:19 pm to
Have we found Luke's alter?
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 2:30 pm to
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The Gus/Lashlee show the last couple of years has broken us all down.



LOL...really? We've only set the SEC record for most consecutive 1k rushers (and counting). I think picking RBs isn't an issue.
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 2:32 pm to
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Watch his film. I think Teague is best fit for our system and would be a beast. Pettway was a 3* FB



CAP was a low 4 or 3* most places.
Tre Mason was a mid-low 4*.
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

yall are probably right. No need in melting anymore. Just accept the reality of being second fiddle. Especially since Saban is signed through 2025.

Yup that's what we are doing. Just accepting mediocrity
Posted by plaric
Pike Road, Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
2206 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 2:52 pm to
Could have picked shite running backs and hit 1k yards a few of those years. That's what running 70% of the time gets you.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37708 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:05 pm to
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Could have picked shite running backs and hit 1k yards a few of those years. That's what running 70% of the time gets you.


In 3 out of 4 Gus years we've had a guy avg >5YPC and be named 1st team All SEC RB

That isn't from just running 70% of the time


Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 6:54 am to
Another Ohio State insider CBd Harris to AU. KN warns tho that UGA will be a major threat
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
7185 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 8:55 am to
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In 3 out of 4 Gus years we've had a guy avg >5YPC and be named 1st team All SEC RB

That isn't from just running 70% of the time
Posted by jrljr
Member since Aug 2012
4074 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 9:12 am to
Get a Slim Jim and grow a pair.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37708 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 9:52 am to
To add to the above , none of our three 1st Team AllSEC RBs were rated as top 250 recruits with two being 3* and Tre being a >250 4*


Whether it is our scheme or Gus finding diamonds in the rough, RB recruiting and star rankings clearly aren't something to melt over
Posted by ThaiTiger24
Member since Jan 2016
4119 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 10:19 am to
If Gus can take a three star and make him highly successful, imagine what Gus could do with an elite RB!I personally believe that the success of our RBs is largely a product of the system we run. Like CAP, I don't really think he would have amounted to much had he played for any other school.

Edit: Interestingly, so far the "elite" RBs Gus has recruited (AKA Roc Thomas and even Kerryon Johnson to a degree) haven't had nearly the amount of success as his lower rated RBs have had.
This post was edited on 5/5/17 at 10:23 am
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37708 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 10:42 am to
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CAP, I don't really think he would have amounted to much had he played for any other school.


CAP was drafted as an old RB with only one year of production. His combine numbers were solid. He wasn't "sexy" but he had good burst and great patience for a college RB

quote:

imagine what Gus could do with an elite RB


If anything we should go after more overlooked big bruising backs like Pettway instead of the home run guys that make up the "elite" backs
Posted by ThaiTiger24
Member since Jan 2016
4119 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 10:52 am to
Yep. The most important thing Gus might have learned during his time at Auburn is that the smaller "elite" RBs haven't had nearly the amount of success that the bigger less "elite" RBs have had.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3599 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:06 am to
Bruh, RB is a dime-a-dozen position, especially in our offensive system. The amount of quality backs in the South on a year-to-year basis is retarded. I don't even know what we're crying about here; this team's success under Malzahn will NEVER fall on the shoulders of whether we line a 5* or 4* at RB. Its QB, QB, QB, and then OL. Period.
Posted by ThaiTiger24
Member since Jan 2016
4119 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:38 am to
I don't know - what would Malzahn's offense had looked like had we signed a guy like Leonard Fournette? Obviously, its an extreme example but you get what I am saying. An elite bruiser can make a significant change to any offense, even Gus Malzahn's offense. Last year we saw just how unsuccessful an offense can be without that type of player when KP was hurt. KJ kept getting bounced backwards it seemed whenever he carried the ball (albeit he had a significant ankle injury).
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:55 am to
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KJ kept getting bounced backwards it seemed whenever he carried the ball (albeit he had a significant ankle injury).


And when KJ was healthy he was running it between the tackled and running mother tickets over too, and doing it very well.

How he looked at the end of the season had everything to do with his injury, not that Pettway wasn't playing
Posted by ThaiTiger24
Member since Jan 2016
4119 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:09 pm to
But even last year, our offense looked considerably better with KP running the ball than with a healthy KJ.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:24 pm to
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But even last year, our offense looked considerably better with KP running the ball than with a healthy KJ.



To be fair KP did his damage against defenses that were considerably less talented. That isn't KP's fault, but it isn't implausible that he would have struggled do to OL issues against uga, bama and oklahoma. Those schools had more talent along the front than KP saw in our stretch of games where he ran crazy.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17379 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:41 pm to
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Edit: Interestingly, so far the "elite" RBs Gus has recruited (AKA Roc Thomas and even Kerryon Johnson to a degree) haven't had nearly the amount of success as his lower rated RBs have had.
Quick, make a list of AU RBs since 2009 who had attitude problems which ultimately affected their performance on the field, even to the point of quitting/transferring/getting dismissed from the team.

Now make a list of those from that same timeframe who had successful careers and were considered solid teammates.

Which list had more guys labeled "elite" by recruiting services?

Obviously, prior performance doesn't guarantee future results, but I'm pretty sure there's a clear trend.
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