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Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:14 pm to WDE24
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:14 pm to WDE24
quote:Probably, unless there is another way to cheat on that test.
the only thing that would make someone ineligible is having someone else take the test for you, right?
quote:Probably not too high since JGT called it anecdital evidence
What is the burden on the investigative body?
quote:No. My understanding is the ACT flagged the score themselves because in their minds it was a lot higher than Danjel's previous ACT scores (1 & or 2 from Gene's post).
Is it safe to assume another school submitted the inquiry?
This post was edited on 10/22/15 at 10:16 pm
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Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:23 pm to ellitor
Rhett Lashlee was on the sideline for a JUCO game that had to be cancelled due to a brawl. Maybe they knocked some sence into him (Just a joke) He wasn't in the fight at least I don't think he was lol
This post was edited on 10/22/15 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:28 pm to AU24
quote:Wrong thread
AU24
Posted on 10/23/15 at 9:12 am to ellitor
Looks like we had an assistant coach win the 3 point contest last night. 
Posted on 10/23/15 at 9:20 am to WDE24
And it wasn't even the rifleman.
Posted on 10/23/15 at 9:31 am to ellitor
Yep the ACT typically flags any test that jumps more than like 4 points from their previous attempt I believe.
And Todd Golden only had to shoot 2 rounds while Lang had to shoot 3 or 4 rounds. Nobody should be surprised Golden won though because he's a sharpshooter still pretty young
And Todd Golden only had to shoot 2 rounds while Lang had to shoot 3 or 4 rounds. Nobody should be surprised Golden won though because he's a sharpshooter still pretty young
Posted on 10/23/15 at 9:47 am to Rig
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Yep the ACT typically flags any test that jumps more than like 4 points from their previous attempt I believe.
From what JGT said, this doesn't appear to be a typical ACT flag. This appears to be an inquiry made by some 3rd party
Posted on 10/23/15 at 10:09 am to GenesChin
LINK
Here is a link describing what has happened. The NCAA historically has taken a "hands off" approach to test score validation. They trusted all scores given to them and the internal controls the ACT/SAT has on the process
Now, the NCAA has their own internal mechanism to flag ACT/SAT scores based on academic records for eligibility. If the NCAA has reason to flag a score they submit an inquiry to the ACT/SAT and provide their reasons and evidence. The ACT/SAT then conducts a review and validates or invalidates the score.
Purifoy right now is eligible and cleared by the NCAA. His ACT score though is currently being reviewed by The ACT. If they invalidate his score, the NCAA retroactively revokes his eligibility. If Auburn was 100% confident Purifoy didn't cheat and made it in, he could play and we would have nothing to worry about. No one takes that chance though when it is their jobs
Here is a link describing what has happened. The NCAA historically has taken a "hands off" approach to test score validation. They trusted all scores given to them and the internal controls the ACT/SAT has on the process
Now, the NCAA has their own internal mechanism to flag ACT/SAT scores based on academic records for eligibility. If the NCAA has reason to flag a score they submit an inquiry to the ACT/SAT and provide their reasons and evidence. The ACT/SAT then conducts a review and validates or invalidates the score.
Purifoy right now is eligible and cleared by the NCAA. His ACT score though is currently being reviewed by The ACT. If they invalidate his score, the NCAA retroactively revokes his eligibility. If Auburn was 100% confident Purifoy didn't cheat and made it in, he could play and we would have nothing to worry about. No one takes that chance though when it is their jobs
This post was edited on 10/23/15 at 10:10 am
Posted on 10/23/15 at 12:45 pm to GenesChin
So your saying he can play in the practice games since they don't count.
Posted on 10/23/15 at 1:20 pm to WDE24
quote:Golden won it with 21 points. That's a very high score for any 3 point contest at any level of ball.
Looks like we had an assistant coach win the 3 point contest last night
Posted on 10/23/15 at 1:21 pm to jangalang
quote:Yeah. He nly had 8 points in his round which is really low.
And it wasn't even the rifleman.
Posted on 10/23/15 at 1:25 pm to GenesChin
quote:This may be true but I was told this was an ACT on their own thing FWIW. That makes sense since we we hearing of the score and not a course being the hold up for a long time now.
From what JGT said, this doesn't appear to be a typical ACT flag. This appears to be an inquiry made by some 3rd party
Posted on 10/23/15 at 1:30 pm to auburn22
quote:He can play any game, practice or otherwise because he is eligible by the NCAA. If the ACT throws his score out the he is retroactively ineligible. I would think he can play the 2 exhinition games since they don't count but it is the NCAA so you never know.
So your saying he can play in the practice games since they don't count.
Posted on 10/23/15 at 1:44 pm to ellitor
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This may be true but I was told this was an ACT on their own thing FWIW. That makes sense since we we hearing of the score and not a course being the hold up for a long time now.
The NCAA accepts all scores/decisions by the ACT. So any investigation done about an ACT score is done exclusively by the ACT and not by the NCAA.
Essentially the NCAA, who has the entire academic record, has a process to have red flags and will then ask the ACT to confirm the score. The ACT then has the option to confirm the score or investigate the score.
tl;dr NCAA does not investigate cheating ACT scores but will alert ACT of high risk scores. NCAA has more academic info therefore assumed higher chance of flagging score compared to ACT organization
Posted on 10/23/15 at 1:56 pm to GenesChin
I never said nor implied it was an NCAA investigation. I was only talking about the ACT people and as it turns out, their investigation into the score in my post. As i tried to point out in that post, the score was red flagged soon after the test was taken which again suggests, but does not necisarily mean, that the ACT flagged it own their own.
Posted on 10/23/15 at 2:53 pm to ellitor
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the score was red flagged soon after the test was taken which again suggests, but does not necisarily mean, that the ACT flagged it own their own.
ACT only flags if Purifoy has taken the ACT twice (I assume he has). If he took SAT then ACT there is nothing to compare.
both NCAA and ACT would be able to flag it pretty quickly
Posted on 10/23/15 at 4:47 pm to GenesChin
quote:He had and that was distinctly implied in this convo.
ACT only flags if Purifoy has taken the ACT twice (I assume he has)
quote:Not sure why you keep going back to the NCAA. They have been irrelevent though this whole discussion and only become relevent if the ACT denies the new score thus making him NCAA ineligible and makes Danjel take the test again.
both NCAA and ACT would be able to flag it pretty quickly
This post was edited on 10/23/15 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 10/23/15 at 5:49 pm to ellitor
The Kentucky freshman just got cleared...
Posted on 10/24/15 at 1:02 am to jangalang
Pearl gives Auburn scrimmage mixed reviews
Phillip Marshall-3 hours ago
AUBURN - Danjel Purifoy, Cinmeon Bowers and T.J. Dunans led th way Friday as Auburn’s basketball team scrimmaged at Auburn Arena.
Purifoy had 18 pointsand six rebounds. Bowers had 12 points and eight rebounds. Dunans had 12 points.
Auburn coach Bruce Pearl gave the scrimmage mixed reviews.
“We have a long way to go,” Pearl said. “I saw some things that were positive. We went up against some zone today, but we were a little inconsistent. We have had good practices. We have depth in practice.”
Horace Spencer had 6 points and eight rebounds. Tyler Harris,Kareem Canty, Bryce Brown andCole Blackstock each had 5 points.Tahj Shamsid-Deen had 3 points and a scrimmage-high four assists.
“We have a chance to get better,” Pearl said. “We can make each other better. We can help each other get better. That is hard when the roster is shorter than what it is. I’m encouraged by coming out to practices and looking at what we can do. We have a long way to go.”
Auburn plays the first of two exhibition games next Friday against Brevard College. The regular-season opener is set for Nov. 5 against UAB at Auburn Arena.
Phillip Marshall-3 hours ago
AUBURN - Danjel Purifoy, Cinmeon Bowers and T.J. Dunans led th way Friday as Auburn’s basketball team scrimmaged at Auburn Arena.
Purifoy had 18 pointsand six rebounds. Bowers had 12 points and eight rebounds. Dunans had 12 points.
Auburn coach Bruce Pearl gave the scrimmage mixed reviews.
“We have a long way to go,” Pearl said. “I saw some things that were positive. We went up against some zone today, but we were a little inconsistent. We have had good practices. We have depth in practice.”
Horace Spencer had 6 points and eight rebounds. Tyler Harris,Kareem Canty, Bryce Brown andCole Blackstock each had 5 points.Tahj Shamsid-Deen had 3 points and a scrimmage-high four assists.
“We have a chance to get better,” Pearl said. “We can make each other better. We can help each other get better. That is hard when the roster is shorter than what it is. I’m encouraged by coming out to practices and looking at what we can do. We have a long way to go.”
Auburn plays the first of two exhibition games next Friday against Brevard College. The regular-season opener is set for Nov. 5 against UAB at Auburn Arena.
Posted on 10/25/15 at 2:36 am to jangalang
quote:
Kentucky freshman just got cleared...
The ACT doesn't care about college athletics and is independent of the UK kid. A decision will be made when the ACT feels confident the score is valid after investigation
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