re: 2013 Auburn Football Recruiting Thread: Abandon All Hope, Ye Who Enter

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've expressed my thoughts on what's going on behind the scenes before. I'm still hearing the same thing. A lot of people don't like it, but I don't give a lovely mother frick (not referring to you, FWIW). It's time to keep Auburn's name out of the headlines unless it's for all the right reasons.

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I completely agree. I do believe the same thing as you when it comes to the HC, OC and DC and that they walk a straight line. I also believe that if the players believe they can get away with things it is more on TT and CL.

I guess my view is that the majority of the players that are getting in trouble and on the news are egomaniacs. It was pretty well known that Mike Dyer was full of himself. He had someone in his entourage approach my friend (girl) and say "Mike will allow you to sit next to him"
Zeke Pike showed up to campus and was telling everyone that he would start over Frazier even when Frazier was around. Just look at his twitter
Reese Dismukes isn't as documented but all my buddies from Spanish Fort, some who even were on the team with him there, have told me that the more he got recruited and the starting position then freshman AA, the bigger his head got.


I do not believe it is a systemic problem because there are a lot of guys I know who bust there arse, high star rating or low. I know a guy who told me how he was down he wasn't going to play this year but he can't wait to hit the weight room during his redshirt year to be the best he can be.


Point being, I think CL and TT need to start being stricter and harsher on the team but I do not believe it is entirely their fault.

The training schedule for these players has been 5am workouts, meetings, class schedule, 3pm practice to about 9pm dinner, bed. I asked one of my friends how he meets people and his response was "Well I have about 5 minutes at the start and ending of classes"

If this was your last free Friday before the season starts what would you do? Stay home or go out like a normal college student?

A lot of people out there have problems behaving themselves when drinking. It would be absurd to think our football team is free of those people

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That was only about one specific member of the staff that TTs was talking about. I can confirm everything TTs said about that particular coach and then some. Can't confirm what was said about Luper, though his reputation isn't nearly as bad in coaching circles as the other guy's is.

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Yeah, Troop is dirty. People around Auburn's program also view Luper as sketcky too. It's not something I like to admit, hear, or see, but it is what it is. I'd rather not see us get hammered like USC and Miami is about to. A lot of Auburn fans can say I'm overreacting, but I definitely don't think it's out of the question that Trooper/Luper are part of the problem. Time to take the trash out, and bring in some great role models and coaches.

I agree with everything you're saying, and this:

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Point being, I think CL and TT need to start being stricter and harsher on the team but I do not believe it is entirely their fault.

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I don't see it as it being all of their fault, but I think they play a pretty big part in it. And if there's dirty things going on with recruiting (and there are), it's from them.

I really wish guys like Jonathan Wallace (even as a freshman), Dee Ford, Phillip Lutz, Corey Lemonier, Cody Parkey, Jake Holland, etc. would throw a players only meeting, and lay down the law. We need to upperclassmen to step up for the younger guys that can't stay straight. With what I've heard from Wallace, I'm really pulling for him. He'd be great for Auburn.

I mean, you would think Dismukes wouldn't have been dumb enough to pull the exact same thing as Zeke a week before game time.

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quote: . A lot of Auburn fans can say I'm overreacting You are.

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Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. Wouldn't you rather your program overreact to hung and head them off than NOT overreact an allow them to fester?

I've been hearing little things for years, but EVERY program has little things and most never become public knowledge. The thing that would concern me is the volume and how it is all within past 18 months (since the ship). My buddy from bowden's staff has said that they had discipline issues bc of Terry not snapping down. Robert Baker was the straw that broke that camel's back. He was not coming back after that season and, honestly, he didn't want to. Dye was a pain in his arse and was always nosing around. Same is true today. Chiz would love for Dye to stay the F away - regardless of what he says publicly.

The impression I get from people who know him from way back suggest that Reese thought he was untouchable.

There are dirty things going on with recruiting everywhere. If it wasn't dirty we wouldn't field a team that could beat Ole Miss. I love talking to a friend who kicks in the Pac 12 about how much shite he got during recruiting. As a kicker

I think you are right though that the upperclassmen need to step up. The coaches will lay down the law but only for a short time. When they are let go again, the older guys need to keep everyone in line.

I can't imagine I will see the football players partying anymore for awhile though

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Yeah fricking right.

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Seriously? It's going on. It's not with every single one of them, but it's happening. Talk to a couple that know.

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You don't even know a Tigerette dude

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Yes, I do. I actually know more than a couple.

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But I can tell you that calling Tigerettes prostitutes for recruiting is complete and utter bullshite.

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You might not want to push this aside. I know it's sounds like something Alabama fans would make up so they could flame Auburn, but it's happening. I don't like it one bit. And yes, I was pissed when I first heard this on the SECr because I thought it was bullshite. It's not. It wasn't as prominent in year's past, but it's bad with some now.

Disagree with me, I don't care.

Well of course some have hooked up with football players. They are around them all the time because they work in the Athletic Complex. But to say that the coaches are telling them to have sex with recruits is hilarious.

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I think you are right though that the upperclassmen need to step up. The coaches will lay down the law but only for a short time. When they are let go again, the older guys need to keep everyone in line.

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Yeah, I think it would help a ton. The coaches, that are good role models, can only do so much. You can't take their fun away entirely, but you have to make sure to keep them away from stupid incidents. The players staying on each other to make the right decisions would help out a good bit. They're with each other almost all the time, and friends.

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I can't imagine I will see the football players partying anymore for awhile though

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They were on lock-down after the Zeke Pike incident from Chizik...

Some still went out. Just an example of them making stupid decisions... They should trust the coaches judgement on things like this.

But I agree. We seem to be on the same page.

I'm with you Rig. Everyone is overreacting. I think the NCAA would have found something on Troop and Luper if they're really as dirty as you say.

You can't prevent what happened to Dismukes.. the only way you prevent what went down last night is not recruiting him.

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