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Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by LanierSpots
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:32 pm to
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That seems like a just "we suck" statement without any context of the current situation


I agree. But it has not been the stance for the most part.


Im not busting on Pearl but when it comes down to it, the team is his responsibility. Just like the Football team is Gus's. They are responsible to react when things happen

Every coach deals with that. In every sport. What shall we do since a few of our guys got hurt? Just lock the doors on the gym and wait till next year?

Posted by LanierSpots
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:35 pm to
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Which is why it is utterly shocking and disappointing to me to see teams being trotted out week after week, game after game, that (to my amateur eyes) look POORLY coached.



Everyone is hurt brah. All got injured and suspended. Those guys you see out there who are poorly coached, they are not on scholarship. Just fill ins


This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:40 pm to
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Which is why it is utterly shocking and disappointing to me to see teams being trotted out week after week, game after game, that (to my amateur eyes) look POORLY coached.


Don't really think that's the case. We tried to drive and get the ball inside to Harris against Vandy and it didn't work, even tried a different starting lineup. We do appear poorly coached at times, but having less talent than your competitor will make it look like that.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:41 pm to
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What shall we do since a few of our guys got hurt? 
What do you suggest? Blame the coach because it's not his fault, but it is his responsibility?

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Just lock the doors on the gym and wait till next year? 
That's one option. Another would be to understand the circumstances and adjust expectations accordingly.

One approach is realistic and maybe more mature. The other gets you famous on YouTube if you record it.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 12:42 pm
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:43 pm to
I guess we could get on here and bitch just to bitch. I simply don't think coaching or roster management is the problem.
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:45 pm to
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I agree. But it has not been the stance for the most part.


Eh I would disagree but I think we are on the same page now

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Im not busting on Pearl but when it comes down to it, the team is his responsibility. Just like the Football team is Gus's. They are responsible to react when things happen


It sure sounded like it early on But I do agree they are responsible I just think it's hard to come down too hard at this stage. The Missouri game was an abomination and that is on Pearl and the team no doubt. We seem stuck in a funk handling all the adversity poorly. I am hoping Pearl can light a fire under these guys like he did for the SEC tourney. Last year's team didn't win a ton but did make it hard for the opponent. I want to see the same fight in this group. Just don't expect it next with Kentucky

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Every coach deals with that. In every sport. What shall we do since a few of our guys got hurt? Just lock the doors on the gym and wait till next year?


Sure they do but every situation is different and it's important to have proper context when discussing things. Expectations need to change when the circumstances do and sometimes fans are terrible at doing that. This team can still be successful but the chance at an SEC winning record is pretty much gone unless someone like Spencer or Bowers turns it up. My hope is guys like Spencer, Brown and New Williams get plenty of big boy basketball minutes and we see improvement as they are going to be crucial pieces next season
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:45 pm to
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Every coach deals with that. In every sport. What shall we do since a few of our guys got hurt? Just lock the doors on the gym and wait till next year?


People on here complain about our team looking like they don't care. That is something that baffles everyone about a Pearl team.


As you probably jokingly said though, we have 2 walkons averaging over 10 minutes per game lately. We have 3/5 starters out for the year.

You don't lock the gym, you just get pillaged and wait until next year.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:57 pm to
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My hope is guys like Spencer, Brown and New Williams get plenty of big boy basketball minutes and we see improvement as they are going to be crucial pieces next season
This. Also, Lang has the skill set to be a very good player, but his approach or mentality seems to be holding him back. I'd like to see him take the next step and play more like Dunans did.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:59 pm to
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Also, Lang has the skill set to be a very good player, but his approach or mentality seems to be holding him back.


His injury seemed to really cause him to take a step back from where he ended last season.

Everytime it seems like he is about to click again, he gets injured or concussed
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:04 pm to
Fwiw we do suck pretty badly and it is frustrating to watch the same thing year after year. I keep telling myself I'm going to stop caring but I haven't been able to accomplish that yet. I still do believe Pearl will get this turned around(not this year) but I'm starting to feel a little bit like Charlie Brown after Lucy yanks the ball away at the last second. I talk myself into believing each year will be different and it's finally going to happen and then bam. Somebody gets hurt, doesn't qualify or simply doesn't live up to the hype and I'm laying on my back thinking what a dumbass I am for believing this time would be different.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:09 pm to
My biggest worry right now is that there is something bad going on in the locker room. I can handle getting beat because the roster is limited right now, but the effort I saw in Nashville made me worry some of the players are checking out effort wise.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 1:10 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 4:19 pm to
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Fwiw we do suck pretty badly and it is frustrating to watch the same thing year after year. I keep telling myself I'm going to stop caring but I haven't been able to accomplish that yet. I still do believe Pearl will get this turned around(not this year) but I'm starting to feel a little bit like Charlie Brown after Lucy yanks the ball away at the last second. I talk myself into believing each year will be different and it's finally going to happen and then bam. Somebody gets hurt, doesn't qualify or simply doesn't live up to the hype and I'm laying on my back thinking what a dumbass I am for believing this time would be different.




I think this is where 99% of us are. I just dont understand why so many here will not just admit it and move on. It does not make you a shitty fan or person to just say what you believe.

I could not have said it better than you did. There is hope with the Bruce Pearl experiment. But so far, its just more of the same. In results that is

Posted by jsmoove
Member since Oct 2010
13465 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 4:26 pm to
It wasn't Nashville that made me worried about the mentality of the team. It was Missouri. But I've seen bad/frustrated body language all season, and wouldn't be shocked if Canty starts coming off the bench sometime next year if Harper or Williams (or Tahj, god willing) steps up. We don't have the athletic forwards right now to do anything, but nobody is moving with or without the ball, and eventually Canty will just stand there/play iso and waive them aside to clear space for a tough 3. Not going to fly next year when Spencer, Purifoy, and Heron are all in the starting lineup. Seems like guys have been frustrated at Bowers, and his body language has showed lately. There's been many times where Harris gets visibly irritated and acts as the PG because no one is trying to move and get the ball inside.
Posted by jsmoove
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 4:32 pm to
My thoughts are you need to chill. We don't have the players yet to play Pearl's style anyway. Our two other options at PG have been injured, Granger and Bowers are thankfully gone, and we'll likely have a starting lineup next season of graduate transfer, Spencer, Purifoy, Heron, and Canty. Think about being able to bring Brown, Williams, and Dunans off the bench. The pieces are almost here.
Posted by PearlJam
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 6:29 pm to
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I just dont understand why so many here will not just admit it and move on. It does not make you a shitty fan or person to just say what you believe.

I could not have said it better than you did. There is hope with the Bruce Pearl experiment. But so far, its just more of the same. In results that is

I think maybe you jumped in mid conversation and thus the context escapes you. This discussion was started by my complaints about the team against Vandy and then another poster asking what is different now than under Barbee and Lebo. The responses were explaining why there is hope and what is different. No one was making a case that the team is good or that it has improved the way we want.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
70686 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:52 pm to
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I think maybe you jumped in mid conversation and thus the context escapes you.


No. This is a discussion of many other discussions. I understand perfectly.


Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37839 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 11:46 am to
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could not have said it better than you did. There is hope with the Bruce Pearl experiment. But so far, its just more of the same. In results that is




I agree with this. I think people are arguing two different things.

I have hope because our shitty situation is out of Bruce's control.

We definitely suck now. We didn't suck at the beginning of the year, we were a decent team who couldn't close a game
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 11:57 am to
So who all is brave/dumb/drunk enough to watch us get throttled on espn today? I'm going to start drinking now.
Posted by REV-S
near tuscaloosa
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 1:05 pm to
Going to game, and whoever said Canty 's body language is telling about how he feels is right. One game a fouled was called on someone and Canty looked at him and said(I told you), meaning if they try and have defense the refs call everything on them. He is clearly frustrated.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 1:50 pm to
Brown seems to have some of the same issues.
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