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re: 2019 NBA Draft: What will the Hawks do?

Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:44 am to
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:44 am to
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Nothing screams Atlanta than walking under the I-85/75 bridge while being serenaded by a homeless dude playing a stolen set of drums.

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Posted by ATLabama
Member since Jan 2013
1602 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:05 pm to
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lol, for frick's sake. if by sterile/bland you mean incredible pregame atmosphere, better attendance, and away from the cultured area around Turner Field, then yeah....sterile and bland. Nothing screams Atlanta than walking under the I-85/75 bridge while being serenaded by a homeless dude playing a stolen set of drums.

I live and work ITP and love going to the new stadium.


Haha, I enjoyed that.

I never said Turner Field was the answer - but what they ended up doing at the Battery was what was promised over at the Ted.

FWIW, my Ideal spot would have been where the gulch is now, West Midtown, or the beltline.

When you go to a Cubs, Sox, or Yankees game, you just get so much more of a classic city and culture vibe.

Stepping off the Addison stop into Wrigleyville is one of the coolest things in sports. It's totally unique, fun, and true to the city of Chicago. It's what made Cubs games so fun, even when they were awful.

The Battery as a concept is great - the location and execution will be remembered in the same way most suburban projects are: inauthentic and unimaginative. Yardhouse? PBR? Wahlburgers? C'mon, man... that's a strip mall.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13277 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:49 pm to
so you are upset that the Braves didn't build a stadium 100 years ago and let a neighborhood grow up around it?

Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
7766 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:11 pm to
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The Hawks actually had decent attendance last year. They just scaled the size of their arena down.

The years in which the Hawks were competitive, they were consistently in the top half of the league.

The new arena is amazing. I think everyone should go check it out. It's got amazing sightlines, unique to Atlanta vendors, and I love the fact it's in the city. Gives it a "big game" vibe, and, is accessible by Marta.

I love the Braves, but the location of that sterile, bland, chain-mall of a stadium complex in the burbs is just awful. I bet guys that wear PFGs and hate going ITP love it, but the team has lost what made them the Atlanta Braves.



The Hawks were dead last in attendance last year and 17th out of 30 teams the year they went to the conference finals.

The battery is considered one of the biggest successes in major league baseball right now. I love how they justified it with a front page metro map on the AJC showing where the majority of their season ticket holders reside. The team is now consistently in the top ten in attendance in accordance with the market size.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13277 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 3:22 pm to
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The Hawks were dead last in attendance last year and 17th out of 30 teams the year they went to the conference finals.

The battery is considered one of the biggest successes in major league baseball right now. I love how they justified it with a front page metro map on the AJC showing where the majority of their season ticket holders reside. The team is now consistently in the top ten in attendance in accordance with the market size.



lets not let facts get in the way of a solid gripefest about the Braves moving away from their thriving fanbase living on 10th and Juniper.
Posted by ATLabama
Member since Jan 2013
1602 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 4:37 pm to
I mean, if you want a white-washed sports experience without any real culture, the Battery is your cup of tea.

If you were to remove all the Braves signage, and simply replace it with Nationals regalia, and I told you that you were in Arlington, Virginia, you wouldn't know the difference.

The location sucks. If a majority of fans are indeed Suburbanites, and you are resigned to pandering to that, then cool. It's not Atlanta, it's suburbia. It's no different than Plano, Texas, Naperville, Illinois, the Woodlands, Texas, etc...

It's not an intolerable situation by any means. And the stadium is nice. It's just super unimaginative and bland.

And if one of your best memories as a sports fan isn't guzzling beer at a 50+ person tailgate underneath the sprawling shade tree in the blue lot for 4 hours, than I can see where there's a gap.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 4:39 pm
Posted by playmakers in space
Member since Sep 2018
1247 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:44 am to
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The Hawks actually had decent attendance last year.

They just scaled the size of their arena down. The years in which the Hawks were competitive, they were consistently in the top half of the league.

The new arena is amazing. I think everyone should go check it out. It's got amazing sightlines, unique to Atlanta vendors, and I love the fact it's in the city. Gives it a "big game" vibe, and, is accessible by Marta.

I love the Braves, but the location of that sterile, bland, chain-mall of a stadium complex in the burbs is just awful. I bet guys that wear PFGs and hate going ITP love it, but the team has lost what made them the Atlanta Braves.


Everything about this take is atrocious.

And your Hawks claims are just completely fabricated. Hawks had the second best record in the league in 2014-2015 and still had relatively shitty attendance. It was shitty in the 90s, too, when they were consistently in the playoffs and getting owned by the Bulls.
Posted by playmakers in space
Member since Sep 2018
1247 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:45 am to
Muh ITP! Muh urbanite sophistication! BAD SUBURBS BAD! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13277 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:23 am to
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Muh ITP! Muh urbanite sophistication! BAD SUBURBS BAD! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


you left out "muh postgame drag shows on 10th street"

I thought we had gotten past these awful takes about STP's location after 2.5 years of tremendous success, but this douche has proven me wrong.
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
40249 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:43 am to
Quite possibly the worst take Ive seen on this board. Congrats.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51805 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 12:10 pm to
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Quite possibly the worst take Ive seen on this board. Congrats.


I thought his first post about wanting Boogie was bad.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5412 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 12:38 pm to
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If you were to remove all the Braves signage, and simply replace it with Nationals regalia, and I told you that you were in Arlington, Virginia, you wouldn't know the difference.

You could say the exact same thing about Turner Field. With the exception of the skyline, which isn't all that unique, you wouldn't know the surrounding ghetto wasn't in Dallas, Miami, Houston, DC, St. Louis, etc.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13277 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 12:48 pm to
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You could say the exact same thing about Turner Field. With the exception of the skyline, which isn't all that unique, you wouldn't know the surrounding ghetto wasn't in Dallas, Miami, Houston, DC, St. Louis, etc.


But Atlanta is the only one that can boast "The Bullpen" bar and grill RIGHT OUTSIDE THE GATE!!

muh bullpen...RIP
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30538 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:07 pm to
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ATLabama


How old are you? Jesus these are some terrible takes and you made up stats about attendance
Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
Member since Nov 2013
9828 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 2:29 pm to
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sterile, bland, chain-mall of a stadium complex in the burbs is just awful. I bet guys that wear PFGs and hate going ITP love it, but the team has lost what made them the Atlanta Braves.


I just went to STP for the first time about a month ago and thought it was awesome. Views are outstanding, food options in the stadium are great, the Battery is awesome.

I genuinely don’t know what the frick you’re talking about.
Posted by ATLabama
Member since Jan 2013
1602 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 3:37 pm to
I see a string of responses from OTP folks here... to each their own.

I want the Braves to do well, but, I've gone to less games since the move.

And yes, I'm a traditionalist in the fact I like my teams in their cities. The "if you took the skyline away," remark is absolutely laughable... That's a pretty unique aspect that isn't replicated anywhere...

I'm glad the OTP crowd here is happy. They catered to you quite well. (PS, do they allow fish hooks on hats in the stadium?)

At least we can bond over how incredible the Benz is.
Posted by ATLabama
Member since Jan 2013
1602 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 3:42 pm to
Back to the subject at hand:

What do we do with our draft capital?

Wasn't a fan of the Prince trade (really liked him). Don't think #17 will give us too much more ammo this draft.

It really looks like we are hoping Culver drops to 5th and we trade back with Cleveland. They don't seem to have a particular pick in mind... maybe we could move the 8, 17, and our second rounders? Keep the 10th for Cam Reddish?
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13277 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:50 pm to
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Back to the subject at hand:


go frick yourself. you steered this shite train off the track. I have no desire to speak intelligently about anything regarding atlanta sports with you.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5412 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:35 pm to
Weird you're assuming we're all OTP. And there's nothing unique about Atlanta's skyline, hence my remark. STP is OTP by half a mile and ten miles from downtown. Stop being so dramatic, it's not like they moved the Braves to Canton.
Posted by ATLabama
Member since Jan 2013
1602 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 3:34 am to
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go frick yourself. you steered this shite train off the track. I have no desire to speak intelligently about anything regarding atlanta sports with you.


Imagine the damper It puts on my day a Georgia Tech fan, named ‘Vinegar Strokes,’ doesn’t want to talk “intelligently” about Hawks basketball... on a SEC message board.
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