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Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:01 am to Rhino5
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Again, $23 million dollars for basically the same product we had in Camargo.
First of all, no. Secondly, Freeman can’t be pitched around anymore. And he’s making pitchers pay for that.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:07 am to devils1854
I wouldn’t say he’s $23 million dollars better that Johan at this point. Would you?
It doesn’t really matter now, apparently we had the money available and used it. I only hope it isn’t causing us not to sign some additional pitchers. Donaldson gives good depth this year and have the potential to make a run.
It doesn’t really matter now, apparently we had the money available and used it. I only hope it isn’t causing us not to sign some additional pitchers. Donaldson gives good depth this year and have the potential to make a run.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:01 am to Rhino5
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I wouldn’t say he’s $23 million dollars better that Johan at this point. Would you?
To answer your question, yes if he happens to start/continue mashing like he did this weekend to get us into and advance in the post season.
Is Bryce Harper worth $28 million more than Markakis? Which would you rather have? You pay a premium for guys who can put balls in the bleachers and affect how a pitcher approaches your line up.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:14 am to BPTiger
Yeah, like I said, so long as the contract isn’t preventing us from signing some pitching depth. And yeah he played well this weekend.
More encouraging is we were only a blown save away from sweeping our biggest threat in the NL East. Braves have the Mets next, Philly has the Nats.
More encouraging is we were only a blown save away from sweeping our biggest threat in the NL East. Braves have the Mets next, Philly has the Nats.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:30 am to Rhino5
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Yeah, like I said, so long as the contract isn’t preventing us from signing some pitching depth. And yeah he played well this weekend.
the signing definitely hasn't prevented us from spending on pitching. we just gave keuchel 13 million for what will amount to exactly 1/2 of a season of starts if he joins the team this week (Julio has made 15 starts so far and 32-34 is typical these days if you stay in the rotation). This signing proves to me that we obviously had the money to spend in the offseason, but that we didn't like what was available.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:37 am to Rhino5
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Meh. Camargo got better when he saw playing time. I hope Donaldson can get to .280 by seasons end. Donaldson gives us depth, but Camargo can’t sit on the bench for 2 weeks and be expected to perform at a .300 level. Again, $23 million dollars for basically the same product we had in Camargo.
You responded to my post by completely ignoring what I actually said and tried to make another point. My point is that the Braves needed and wanted an impact power bat. If they had not signed Donaldson, then that means that they would have viewed Riley as being ready to take over at 3B and he would have been in the lineup to start the year, thus pushing Camargo to the same role he is in now. They would have then used the money to buy/trade for another outfielder. I think they likely would have traded for a guy like David Peralta.
There was no way for the Braves to know that Camargo's production would flat line due to him pouting about not playing everyday.
I personally don't care one way or the other if Donaldson hits .280 or if we are missing out on Camargo hitting .300. Neither of those numbers are the point.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:54 am to VinegarStrokes
Yeah man, we keep these crowds up and the money discussions can stop 
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Atlanta Braves@SunTrustPark ·
With today’s sellout crowd, we have set a record for the highest 3-game total in SunTrust Park history with a combined attendance of 126,423!
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:58 pm to Rhino5
Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:42 pm to Rhino5
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Yeah man, we keep these crowds up and the money discussions can stop
nah dude, moving to "outside Atlanta" was a yuge mistake. YUUUUUUGE mistake. Can't believe they just completely gave a middle finger to those happenin' fans in midtown that never went to games anyways. And those stupid chain restaurants like Antico and Fox Brothers BBQ....ugh, don't get me started. What a white washed atmosphere of sold out games and jam packed bars.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 3:20 pm to VinegarStrokes
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My point is that the Braves needed and wanted an impact power bat. If they had not signed Donaldson, then that means that they would have viewed Riley as being ready to take over at 3B and he would have been in the lineup to start the year, thus pushing Camargo to the same role he is in now. They would have then used the money to buy/trade for another outfielder. I think they likely would have traded for a guy like David Peralta.
There was no way for the Braves to know that Camargo's production would flat line due to him pouting about not playing everyday.
I personally don't care one way or the other if Donaldson hits .280 or if we are missing out on Camargo hitting .300. Neither of those numbers are the point.
Why you gotta be such a good poster... makes it a lot harder to talk shite to you seriously come football season.
Don't worry, I'll still do it, but I might feel a little bad about it. 
Posted on 6/17/19 at 3:26 pm to fibonaccisquared
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Why you gotta be such a good poster... makes it a lot harder to talk shite to you seriously come football season. Don't worry, I'll still do it, but I might feel a little bad about it.
i'm sure the Tech coaching staff will continue to put out tons of ammo for y'all to attack LOL.
that shite on the UGA board is pretty damned funny and accurate. but I'd rather have a staff do that crap to actually get recruits' and HS programs' attention again than what Paul Johnson did....which was nothing. They are getting some really good players to take official visits which hasn't happened in 10 years. HS coaches are saying that they are seeing GT coaches at their school for the first time in 10 years. It's sad. And we'll pay the price this year with book-end butt frickings by Clemson and UGA.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 3:26 pm to Rhino5
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Yeah, like I said, so long as the contract isn’t preventing us from signing some pitching depth
Pretty sure they were transparent about what they were doing. They were ok with the 23M because it was a one year deal... I'd agree with the above, they passed on what was available in the off-season pitching wise because they didn't like it... Based on most of the results, it would seem they likely made a really good decision on that front. Hindsight is 20:20 and all that jazz, but I'll trust that they can likely evaluate the open market a little better than I can at least.
Now the concern is prior to the trade deadline, we need a legit closer... they either need to convert an arm and develop some trust in it or go pick someone up from a non-contender and SPEND... I think we'd all agree it's pretty infuriating to watch our bullpen go stand out there and wait to get kicked in the nuts over and over again.
If we don't, then I'll retract my statement and argue that they never intended to spend to fix the pitching situation in the off season (ie. was not due to evals), rather wait until the season to figure out if they were going to be buyers or not... and if so, how big...
Posted on 6/17/19 at 3:28 pm to VinegarStrokes
I was reading in the crootin thread about the GT/Bama "battle" for a recruit and had to do a double take... It's nice to see the effort at least. Even if it is way past just bordering on the comical how they're approaching it.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 3:31 pm to VinegarStrokes
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nah dude, moving to "outside Atlanta" was a yuge mistake. YUUUUUUGE mistake. Can't believe they just completely gave a middle finger to those happenin' fans in midtown that never went to games anyways. And those stupid chain restaurants like Antico and Fox Brothers BBQ....ugh, don't get me started. What a white washed atmosphere of sold out games and jam packed bars.
right? It was a ballsy move to relocate like they did, but it’s paying off, and us northern burbs folks sure prefer the battery instead of having to watch our back as we left turner field at 11pm to go to our cars parked in some shady lot.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 3:39 pm to fibonaccisquared
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I was reading in the crootin thread about the GT/Bama "battle" for a recruit and had to do a double take... It's nice to see the effort at least. Even if it is way past just bordering on the comical how they're approaching it.
they've gone all out on several Bama commits and insiders have said that they have legitimate chances to flip them - Morton, Robinson, and Baker.
Chances are they don't get any of them, but it's a smart move to go after some of the "lower rated" Bama recruits in my opinion. Stay active, develop the relationship, and at some point Saban will pull the offer or ask them to grey shirt or they'll get on campus and get processed out.
meanwhile you'll have Geoff Collins waiting in the wings ready to take them to waffle house.
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 6/17/19 at 3:44 pm to fibonaccisquared
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Now the concern is prior to the trade deadline, we need a legit closer
I’m not holding my breath. I think they’ll go after 2 legit veteran relievers instead, and hope that our offense can score enough runs to buffer the possible Minter collapse.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 3:51 pm to Rhino5
Kelsey the reporter said on her twitter she talked to the manager and he said the plan is to start Dallas Keuchel on Friday in Washington. Hope he kills the gnats.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 3:58 pm to dudeabides
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Kelsey the reporter
anyone think that Camargoat is hitting this?
Posted on 6/17/19 at 4:06 pm to dudeabides
Can’t wait to see Keuchel. No idea where Gausman fits in from here. Possibly a trade piece.
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