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re: You have to recruit yourself out of this hole

Posted on 3/3/19 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 4:10 pm to
Wanting him fired and believing he should be fired now are different things.

One is tied to the feelings of frustration one has due to poor performance, the other is more like critical thinking.

Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
24008 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 4:12 pm to
the sad thing about it, is... I am beginning to believe he actually believes the crap he spews on the Hog board. I find it hilarious what he puts on the rant.. but here?

Either that, or multiple personality disorder. If this is the case, I immediately apologize and offer help.

Sad thing about message boards, we don't know who is honest, and who is not. Who have major issues, and who is a crap stirrer. But, here we goes!
Posted by Drewbie
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Sad thing about message boards, we don't know who is honest, and who is not. Who have major issues, and who is a crap stirrer.
I think we can get a pretty fair idea after a while.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 4:14 pm to
I got an idea for your next sermon, Rev.

You can tell people about the guy who never had problems because he never started shite with other people.

AKA, keep my name out your mouth. Don't start nothin, won't be nothin.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

I honestly believe he is doing this now to stir shite. I am a huge BoarEd fan, but his basketball arguments this year have been far off. It has to be to get a rise out of us.


Sure, he does to an extent. He isn't trolling but likes to double down at really strange times. He can actually give some good points but you aren't going to get them in a thread like this, in which he is heavily on the defense.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Wanting him fired and believing he should be fired now are different things.


Ok, sure


quote:

One is tied to the feelings of frustration one has due to poor performance, the other is more like critical thinking.


Nah, you can think critically and come to the conclusion of firing Mike. Doesn't mean that is the only answer but it is certainly one of the conclusions.
This post was edited on 3/3/19 at 4:19 pm
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

Nah, you can think critically and come to the conclusion of firing Mike.


Well, I'm not claiming to be a philosopher, but I can't see the logic chain that takes one to firing Mike this year.

Oh frick it. You're right. I shouldn't have said the fire now crowd are all idiots. You got me.

Idiot is a slightly strong word. But only slightly.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

Sure, he does to an extent. He isn't trolling but likes to double down at really strange times.


I'm just giving hot takes, man. I don't mean nothing by any of it. I consider I'm just doing the board a favor by driving traffic a little.

Plus, it's fun.

So, apology accepted, y'all.

ETA: Let me be clear here as well. That doesn't mean I'm trolling. My opinions are real. I just spice them up sometimes.
This post was edited on 3/3/19 at 4:27 pm
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

I can't see the logic chain that takes one to firing Mike this year.



If you are being honest, I'm not sure how you can't see that logic. You even said "If he loses Reggie Chaney it's all over. I'll be right along side you guys calling for his firing."

If you truly believe that then we are just screwing ourselves hard by giving another year if Chaney leaves. It is also sad it has gotten to the point of one player leaving that becomes the deciding factor.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 4:35 pm to
Risk vs Reward.

The risk of firing the man and setting the program back far outweighs hanging on to him while we empanel a committee to conduct a national search.

We need a committee and all that jazz because we are entrusting someone to this job who has never actually done this job. You're letting a lot ride on his first big hire.

Meanwhile, so long as he is able to keep his team intact, he will get one more shot to see if he can put together something special. For a man who wins 67% of his games, this isn't a risk. He isn't going to set the program back. He has only ever brought it up.

Also tack in "youngest team in the nation" on the pro Mike column because the team will get better with time, and the optics are bad firing a successful coach who had a setback year with the youngest team in the country. (If the new hire is a failure, this becomes downright embarrassing by itself)

The only legit argument to be made is that we aren't where we want to be 8 years in. I get it. So does he.

Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
38137 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

multiple personality disorder.


That would be Pio

Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 4:45 pm to
Another question I have about all of this is not only who are you going to hire, but who is going to even so the hiring? Yurachek? OK. Who's drawing up the damn contracts, because near as I can tell whoever has been doing that shite lately needs to be shitcanned.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

this isn't a risk. He isn't going to set the program back.


And I would never make this argument. The problem is not enough to suggest any reward.

I'm not going to melt if Mike doesn't get fired this year but in the world that we keep him and Mike doesn't get it done next year. It would have been better to make the move this year.

Even as someone who in general believes the tournament is a crap shoot. That is really all I care about when judging coaches, Appearances and Runs. I'll remove Mike's first three years and 3 out of 5 tournament appearances with the 2nd round being the best performance, isn't enough for me.

That being said, if he is coaching next year I'll be open to changing my mind depending on what he does.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 5:05 pm to
To each their own, I suppose. I am firmly in the camp that he gets next season. The other side, seems ludicrous to me.

However, like you, I'll say that if they fire him I will withhold judgment. I don't make that kind of money ultimately to say I know for a fact that I know better.

I just strongly suspect I do and I strongly suspect I am right and he will get next season.

Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

he will get next season.


I have never disagreed with this. I think he is going to get it even if he loses out at this point. IMO the only chance was him ending the season on a 10 game loss steak.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 5:17 pm to
I still want to know who is gonna draw up the contracts.

Is it Cromer Peoples? Probably. Let's hope she didn't draw up the contracts for Bielema. That shite is disgraceful and I doubt Jeff Long was the guru behind that.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 5:26 pm to
Long was the one who was in love with Bert. Julie fired him. Hunter got hired. He needs to fix this since it's his job. If not, why did we hire him.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 6:05 pm to
Yeah, but the ADs don't actually draw up contracts. Do they? Sounds dumb as shite to me. I wouldn't trust Long or Yurachek to actually draw up contracts for the states highest paid officials. Surely that's not the case.
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
4019 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

Roger Crawford once tried to field goal kick a guy in the head on the basketball court


That was Clint McDaniel

quote:

Ethan Henderson will step into the 5


Ethan Henderson is not a 5. He isn’t physical enough to defend the 5 and he has less of a post game than Gafford.

quote:

Boy, Gabe Osabouein came up big in that game yesterday. That guy is a damn good ball player.



For someone that tries to lecture everyone on Arkansas basketball you don’t seem to have a clue
This post was edited on 3/3/19 at 8:19 pm
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
38137 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

Another question I have about all of this is not only who are you going to hire, but who is going to even so the hiring? Yurachek?


Damn BoarEd. You're better than this, HY has never hired or fired a coach as an AD.

Don't make me post the damn link again.

Cashacheck ain't doing jack shite about Mike or Coach Hammerdown.

The Brunette got dis.


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