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re: What happened to hammer down?

Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7515 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:07 pm to
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I'm sure if you drill the hell out the play you won't do that..................

You coach the dumb mistakes out of players.

If you don't then you aren't a good coach.


They might have ran it correctly in practice, we have no way of knowing. A coach can’t be with a player 24/7 to make sure he’s studying his playbook, that’s on the player.

Blaming everything on coaching is dumb to me because if every player on every team did what their coaches taught them to do then every team would play perfect football and every game would go into OT because there are no mistakes ever
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:10 pm to
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Blaming everything on coaching is dumb to me because if every player on every team did what their coaches taught them to do then every team would play perfect football and every game would go into OT because there are no mistakes ever
We aren't talking about ONE mistake.

There are multiple mistakes EVERY SINGLE GAME. Mistakes such as too many in the backfield.... that is a formation penalty that should never happen in week 10 and beyond.

Holding, targeting, pass interference.... those are all effort and talent mistakes.

Alignment and procedural penalties are coaching.

I can't believe ya'll are blaming Razorback players for that and taking the side of a freaking AGGIE.
This post was edited on 11/17/18 at 3:11 pm
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:12 pm to
When you see players all of a sudden play like they've never played the game before, it's a sure sign they've lost their focus.

That isn't always on the coach. Not year 1 in a 180° transition in coaching philosophy.

To act like this shite is on Morris is just ridiculous.

Otherwise you're trying to tell me that Morris's coaching techniques are what's causing our punter to fumble a godamn snap on his own goal line.

Or that John Chavis doesn't know how to coach a secondary and that's why our DBs are playing like shite this year. Same dudes that were making play after play just two years ago.

These guys have quit. And it's obvious. That isn't on Morris.

ETA: I've seen procedural penalties in the goddamn NFL. It happens.

Man, some people grasp at anything they can to justify acting like a shithead.
This post was edited on 11/17/18 at 3:15 pm
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:16 pm to
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To act like this shite is on Morris is just ridiculous.


He is a coach. He is paid millions of dollars to get the most out of what he has. He hasn't come close to doing that.

Bielema's 3-9 season was an omen for his tenure here.

To act like 2-10 won't be the same for Morris is downright dumb.

Thank god for a horrible Tulsa team otherwise we would finish 1-11.

Did Tulsa even beat anyone this year?
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7515 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:17 pm to
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Did Tulsa even beat anyone this year?


UCA, but they scored more points than we did
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:18 pm to
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ETA: I've seen procedural penalties in the goddamn NFL. It happens.

You see multiple procedural penalties by the same team in the same situation week in and week out????

You see the same pro teams not know where to line up multiple times in a game EVERY F'N WEEK and calling timeouts on special teams in the latter part of the season?

BS
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:26 pm to
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Bielema's 3-9 season was an omen for his tenure here.

To act like 2-10 won't be the same for Morris is downright dumb.


That's a good point.

So, as you've pointed out, it appears Chad Morris can't coach football, and this is the proof. What's your plan?

Should I draft an email to Yurachek and tell him to go ahead and cut Morris a buyout check?
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12623 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:28 pm to
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I'm sure if you drill the hell out the play you won't do that..................


Good grief man. Petrino was the best coach we've had in my lifetime and even his teams done stupid shite. We had all kinds of false starts and our OL gave up more sacks than a Walmart cashier.

The difference between those teams and this team was we had Ryan Mallet and Tyler Wilson throwing the ball to guys like DJ Williams, Greg Childs, Joe Adams, Jarius Wright, Cobi Hamilton, and Chris Gragg.

We don't have have the skill players to run any offense this season. We are a talent poor team. Morris can only do so much.

Petrino had a rough season his first year too, but he inherited better talent than Morris did.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16968 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:36 pm to
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Bielema would just stand there looking clueless.


And hungry
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:38 pm to
Morris is dealing with a team full of players recruited by the previous coach, who had a completely different outlook, and offensive philosophy. Those players have the attitude and demeanor of the coach who recruited them. Not buying in, when the old staff and team had been successful would still be wrong, and stupid, but at least they would have a leg to stand on. Not buying in when you’ve sucked arse for the last 3 or 4 years is inexcusable. What I don’t understand at this point, is why any of the players identified as such are even allowed to dress, much less see the field. Who cares if we are playing freshmen and sophomores? We are just going to be embarrassed anyway. Might as well gain some experience for the guys who are the future.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:40 pm to
I think Bielema was about a bad a fit as you could possibly have here. He was lazy.

Arkansas cannot afford to employ lazy coaches. Arkansas has to work harder than their peers. Just the way it is.

This team plays exactly like they would wear flip flops to a frickin press conference. Listening to raggae.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7515 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:43 pm to
The story about him being on vacation because he “forgot” a big recruit was visiting that weekend still astounds me
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

That's a good point.

So, as you've pointed out, it appears Chad Morris can't coach football, and this is the proof. What's your plan?

Should I draft an email to Yurachek and tell him to go ahead and cut Morris a buyout check?
Now we have the typical dumb shite response to criticism....

"hurr durr well goez ahead and firez him and see what gud that'll do ya...

if youse so smartz why aren't youse an coach or AD....

go aheadz fancy pants and pay the buyouts...."


Of course the answer is not to fire him.

He, like every other coach, deserves and will get at least 3 years. And fans will have the right to bitch if he continues to be horrible game manager and play caller.

If he improves, like Petrino and Bielema did in year 2 then he will get leniency.

He can earn a ton of good will by being competitive vs. Mizzou and by getting us to a bowl game next season.

quote:

Should I draft an email to Yurachek and tell him to go ahead and cut Morris a buyout check?
Hate to tell ya but Ol' Hunter Collectacheck ain't calling the shots at all..... the AD is a figurehead now.

In regards to buyout. How much do you donate? I'm sure you are paying a sizable contribution to talk about money being spent or checks cut. Did you get your complimentary tickets to the Indiana game?
This post was edited on 11/17/18 at 3:51 pm
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
30974 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:48 pm to
I put this in another thread, but it’s better suited here....

We are bad.

You can argue it’s so and so’s fault all you want...the bottom line is that this team was so far gone when Morris took over he would’ve had to of been a miracle worker.

This teams been done since blowing a lead to VaTech two years ago. Once something starts going against them, they lay the hell down. Those hold overs that are seniors now, or juniors are soft.

I fire people like that. It’s going to take two years for this shop to get put in the right direction. I’ll admit, I didn’t think it was that bad. When you look back though, we just didn’t see it or we didn’t want to.

The most worrisome part to me, is that there are groups of 21 & 22 year old men in this world who will throw in the towel at the first sign of adversity. Arkansans hire lots of former hogs in sales, etc. None of these cats even look like good hires to me, much less football players.

I still can’t blame Chad Morris. Should we have beaten Colorado State? Yea, probably. Here is the thing though and this is the way I look at it....It’s like a divorce and the Mom(Arkansas)got custody of their troubled children. Step Dad(Morris)comes in and has a new set of rules. Kids rebellious in nature, put up a wall and continue to do things the way they’ve been allowed prior to step dads arrival. At a certain point, the step dad says screw it, you can’t be changed so I’m going to wait for your asses to turn 18 and kick you out of my house and start over.

My thoughts anyway...we’ve got a group of kids that aren’t willing to change there ways and there isn’t much anyone can do about it.
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:49 pm to
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The story about him being on vacation because he “forgot” a big recruit was visiting that weekend still astounds me

Coaches have to be 100% committed to win here.

Bielema failed because he'd rather drink and vacation in Florida than recruit.

Morris has shown great commitment to recruiting. He has to find a way to get it to work on the field.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16968 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:50 pm to
I think people overestimated how easy it would be to change the offensive philosophy. After watching this season I think we need a mobile QB for this offense to succeed or an unbelievably accurate one.

One thing is for certain. The Online needs to improve. We could have Cam Newton back there and it wouldn't matter. Our QBs are getting murdered.
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:54 pm to
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Morris is dealing with a team full of players recruited by the previous coach, who had a completely different outlook, and offensive philosophy.
That was why we hired Morris..... everyone touted his high school coaching history as evidence of him being able to adapt and make his offense fit.

He has not adapted one bit.

It took him how many weeks to discover that we had multiple tight ends on the team? AND we still aren't targeting them enough. Grayson Gunter should get multiple targets a game.

Instead we focus on passing to a 140 lbs wideout (Deon) and running two wide receiver passes.
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:57 pm to
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The O-line needs to improve.


AND that's the one area we aren't recruiting well.

In a year where we have 2 instate lineman going to other P5 teams.

But we beat out New Mexico and Mizzou State for Latham.

If we are going to chase players like that then we should offer Drew Vest.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:59 pm to
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That was why we hired Morris..... everyone touted his high school coaching history as evidence of him being able to adapt and make his offense fit.



No

We hired Morris because of his connections to the state of Texas and that he turned a dumpster fire in SMU to something respectable by the time he left. He wasn't hired because he was going to make a huge change on the offensive side of the ball seem smooth. Morris and the coaches deserve criticism but you are taking it way overboard.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16968 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 4:01 pm to
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He has not adapted one bit


You can't run ANY offensive if you can't block.
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