The SEC West

We are a basketball and baseball school. Win 6-8 games a year in football and we are fine. Accept it, that’s just how it is. The money is worth it and frick the big 12.

Exactly. We are never gonna run the sec year in and year out in football and that’s okay as long as we have a shot for a title once every 4 or 5 years with average teams in between. Face it the reason we won so much in the old days was because of the southwest conference. Outside of us, shorthorns and occasionally Aggie it was like playing in a mid major conference. I would rather play in the sec where the year we finally do get over the hump and win conference we have a very high chance of also winning a natty. I believe it will happen eventually in my lifetime. We just need the right coach. The facility and fan base are there. 15 years ago us and Clemson were about at the same place hell I probably would e said we were the better program. We just have to find that guy who can catch lightning at Arkansas

Then by those numbers were about due!

We probably would be better in the big xii just due to it being a better fit for our general recruiting plan. We are probably the only school in the conference who tries to recruit heavily in places we don't normally play games in. Even in the old very competitive big xii I think we stand up better.

Nebraska and West Virginia are having some of the same fish out of water problems we have had.I don't think we should move though because

1. Less money
2. Less stability
3. Not enough quality programs to move with you to help the first two problems

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1. Less money



Barely. The difference would be a couple million dollars.

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You have been claiming this for some time, yet have never provided a bit of creditable evidence. And since you have made incredible BS claims over the years, I'm going to consider this another one until such time you provide real numbers.

Reading the situation: don't move ALL your athletic programs to the B12 based off the lack of success of a college football program when in 5-10 years who knows if college football exists in it's current state.

Signs show it's declining rapidly between attendance numbers and depending on how the media contracts go with streaming bidders will the coaching salary bubble will burst without TV contracts to back those decisions.

I'd put Oxford up against Lawrence, and nobody travels to those other places anyway.

Austin and Fort Worth are also cities, if that's what you're getting at.

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You might be fine with sucking Texas dick, but I much rather take lumps in the SEC.

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Why? We could be a perennial top 25 team in the Big 12. That's better than being everyone's doormat in the SEC.

Suck all the Texas dick you want. I rather deal with truths, i.e. actually a good team. What's more, it hasn't always been this way, and you know it. It's your boys Jeff, Chad, and Bert that put us here in the first place.