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The Malzahnistas are already souring me on any idea of Gus
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:12 pm
Serious thread
They want to say the powers that be hold all the cards. Well bullshite. They don't. All the fricking cards are actually held by the fans. All the fricking cards. And if Gus minions use verbiage that basically says Gus will be forced down our throats, big mistake.
I remember these guys rooting for Tulsa against us in 2007. Openly, showing off in the stands, taunting that they were "Razorback fans rooting for Tulsa."
The blog from "realhogreporter"? Anyone who remembers it, it declared war on our program after Malzahn had left for Tulsa, and it included "information" or word of mouth that only people inside the fricking coaching meetings would be able to opine about. It accused Frank Broyles and Dean Webber of "murder" in the case of Shannon Wright, talking about "negligence" in regard what was prescribed for Shannon. Drummed up the Harrod case in Dallas, which had nothing to do with Gus, and everything to do with trying to burn our program to the ground. Much of it is deleted now. You can still find the remnants of it.
Think about that one for a second. Any of it, but especially that info from inside 2006 coaching meetings that was printed on that site, with Gus as "the victim." By the way, I wanted Nutt fired after 2003. I'm no Nutt fan.
I want what's best for the program. I'm willing to get on board, or maybe I was willing. I'm already more than a bit soured from some on social media and message boards trashing anyone who questions this possible hire.
The pro-Gus media. Don't get me started. They helped throw gas on the Petrino situation, on purpose, and they helped trash Bielema from day one. Bielema, I want him gone, but he will RIGHTLY opine at some point that our local sports media helped declare war on him from day one.
I'll backtrack a little. The money PTB"s matter. Of course they matter.
So do the commoners. So do we.
ETA: Clarification... if you want Gus hired, fine, I understand. I'm not dissing you in this thread. I'm talking about the folks who's verbiage about the topic is that we will have it shoved down our throats and we will like it. We all know who they are and we've all seen them doing this shite even in the past week.
They want to say the powers that be hold all the cards. Well bullshite. They don't. All the fricking cards are actually held by the fans. All the fricking cards. And if Gus minions use verbiage that basically says Gus will be forced down our throats, big mistake.
I remember these guys rooting for Tulsa against us in 2007. Openly, showing off in the stands, taunting that they were "Razorback fans rooting for Tulsa."
The blog from "realhogreporter"? Anyone who remembers it, it declared war on our program after Malzahn had left for Tulsa, and it included "information" or word of mouth that only people inside the fricking coaching meetings would be able to opine about. It accused Frank Broyles and Dean Webber of "murder" in the case of Shannon Wright, talking about "negligence" in regard what was prescribed for Shannon. Drummed up the Harrod case in Dallas, which had nothing to do with Gus, and everything to do with trying to burn our program to the ground. Much of it is deleted now. You can still find the remnants of it.
Think about that one for a second. Any of it, but especially that info from inside 2006 coaching meetings that was printed on that site, with Gus as "the victim." By the way, I wanted Nutt fired after 2003. I'm no Nutt fan.
I want what's best for the program. I'm willing to get on board, or maybe I was willing. I'm already more than a bit soured from some on social media and message boards trashing anyone who questions this possible hire.
The pro-Gus media. Don't get me started. They helped throw gas on the Petrino situation, on purpose, and they helped trash Bielema from day one. Bielema, I want him gone, but he will RIGHTLY opine at some point that our local sports media helped declare war on him from day one.
I'll backtrack a little. The money PTB"s matter. Of course they matter.
So do the commoners. So do we.
ETA: Clarification... if you want Gus hired, fine, I understand. I'm not dissing you in this thread. I'm talking about the folks who's verbiage about the topic is that we will have it shoved down our throats and we will like it. We all know who they are and we've all seen them doing this shite even in the past week.
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 9:45 am
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:27 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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RIGHTLY opine at some point that our local sports media helped declare war on him from day one.
How come in 40 other threads from this past season I can see people saying "well if the media got the OK to trash Bert he is finally gonna get the ax"
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:31 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
GOBN doin work, nothing more, nothing less.
With Frank and Long both out of the way, it'll be a pissing contest. In the end if Auburn beats Bama they'll be standing there with their dick's in their hands.
With Frank and Long both out of the way, it'll be a pissing contest. In the end if Auburn beats Bama they'll be standing there with their dick's in their hands.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:22 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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RIGHTLY opine at some point that our local sports media helped declare war on him from day one.
This makes anything else you say irrelevant. That fat frick got a free pass for 3 1/2 seasons.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:32 pm to Raz4back
With today's technology, who relies on media coverage? They suck. If you can't formulate your own opinion on the huge amounts of information available to you via the internet, you are a zombie.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:58 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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they helped trash Bielema from day one. Bielema, I want him gone, but he will RIGHTLY opine at some point that our local sports media helped declare war on him from day one.
I’m the antitheses of a Malzahnista, but this is bullshite.
Bert’s flaws and losses were accepted, glossed over and apologized for from the get-go almost comprehensively in the media. Who in the media was calling for him to be fired at any point during 0-8, 13 straight, Toledo, Texas Tech, and 0-5 against Texas A&M.
Hell, no one in the media even publicly entertained the thought that Bert wouldn’t be here in 2018 until after the South Carolina loss.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:54 pm to Malvy
A lot of people still get their programming from the media these days. They're older now -- people my father's age -- but there's still a hell of a lot of them out there.
I disagree with Harry Rex's assertions about the media as well, but agree with pretty much everything else. The Springdale cultists are ridiculous and they put their personal interest above the welfare of the program they claim to love. Morons, if you ask me.
I disagree with Harry Rex's assertions about the media as well, but agree with pretty much everything else. The Springdale cultists are ridiculous and they put their personal interest above the welfare of the program they claim to love. Morons, if you ask me.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 12:28 am to Harry Rex Vonner
quote:They still exist. There were two of them in the SOC when we played Auburn.
I remember these guys rooting for Tulsa against us in 2007
Razorback shirt and Auburn hats. Laughing and cheering when Gus/Auburn was kicking our arse.
I don't understand why anybody would be fans of a coach over a program. I might cheer for somebody if they were family BUT not when they were coaching against my hogs.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 12:29 am to hilltophog
it is an occult, and we who still buy tickets... could likely become financial members.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 4:04 am to Razorback Reverend
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it is an occult
Appropriate wording considering the witch hunt targeting Gus from a portion of our fans
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:25 am to Raz4back
well that makes you not very smart
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:28 am to Feral
no it's not
anyway, kind of strange yall only focus on one sentence I wrote - jeez, I'm not taking up for Bielema
anyway, kind of strange yall only focus on one sentence I wrote - jeez, I'm not taking up for Bielema
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:36 am to hilltophog
thank you - you get it
Twitter unfortunately does count as "media" nowdays.
for the rest of you who only focused on one sentence, you're the ones spouting bullshite. ONE particular guy in the local media led a cast of "media" minions on Twitter trashing Bret at any turn, from year one, month one.
Same guy who FOI'd Bobby Petrino's phone records and held out "nudie pics" from the phone as topic to "wonder aloud" about whether or not they'd be released. Same guy who fanned the flames for the national media on the Petrino thing and fed them info.
...same guy who's always had Gus' dick in his mouth.
Twitter unfortunately does count as "media" nowdays.
for the rest of you who only focused on one sentence, you're the ones spouting bullshite. ONE particular guy in the local media led a cast of "media" minions on Twitter trashing Bret at any turn, from year one, month one.
Same guy who FOI'd Bobby Petrino's phone records and held out "nudie pics" from the phone as topic to "wonder aloud" about whether or not they'd be released. Same guy who fanned the flames for the national media on the Petrino thing and fed them info.
...same guy who's always had Gus' dick in his mouth.
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 9:37 am
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:39 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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yall only focus on one sentence I wrote - jeez, I'm not taking up for Bielema
That's kind of the world we live in now, at least in the good old USA. If you were against Hillary, then you must think Trump is the best President ever. If you are against BLM burning and destroying stuff, then you must be a racist. If you think a christian bakery owner has a right to refuse business that goes against their beliefs, you must be a homophobe.
ETA: And if you are a white male gunowner, you must be the devil!
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 9:41 am
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:42 am to WonderWartHawg
spot on bro
maybe this thread about Malzahnistas brought out some Malzahnistas
maybe this thread about Malzahnistas brought out some Malzahnistas
Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:00 am to Harry Rex Vonner
I have long said that I don't want Malzhan as coach of the Razorbacks. I have watched his actions over a long period of time, beginning at Shiloh Christian.
I watched him coach against my alma mater. I sat in a restaurant before the game in which everyone tagged us as a huge underdog, and listen to the Shiloh fans laugh off the game as a mere formality before picking up the state championship trophy. I watched a good christian man from a lowly south arkansas school out coach and out scheme the mighty Malzhan and take that trophy home instead.
I have watched him verbally accept another HS coaching job, only to break that agreement a few days later.
I watched him luck into a job that he didn't really pay the dues for, on the back of some talented athletes he had. I watched him throw said athletes under the bus and leave when he didn't like sharing his responsibilities with another coach.
I've watched him cut and run several times when things weren't going the way he wanted. I warned AU fans long ago that there would be a time when they would get tired of him.
If you don't get it by now, I don't have a lot of respect for Gus Malzhan the man. He can coach a little, but even that makes you scratch your head a little now and then.
I have resigned myself that he possibly could end up at the UofA. I will still root for the Hogs, for Malzhan - not so much. Much like I did with Petrino. Didn't care much for him as a person either, but he was the Hog's coach and I was a fan of the Hogs.
I watched him coach against my alma mater. I sat in a restaurant before the game in which everyone tagged us as a huge underdog, and listen to the Shiloh fans laugh off the game as a mere formality before picking up the state championship trophy. I watched a good christian man from a lowly south arkansas school out coach and out scheme the mighty Malzhan and take that trophy home instead.
I have watched him verbally accept another HS coaching job, only to break that agreement a few days later.
I watched him luck into a job that he didn't really pay the dues for, on the back of some talented athletes he had. I watched him throw said athletes under the bus and leave when he didn't like sharing his responsibilities with another coach.
I've watched him cut and run several times when things weren't going the way he wanted. I warned AU fans long ago that there would be a time when they would get tired of him.
If you don't get it by now, I don't have a lot of respect for Gus Malzhan the man. He can coach a little, but even that makes you scratch your head a little now and then.
I have resigned myself that he possibly could end up at the UofA. I will still root for the Hogs, for Malzhan - not so much. Much like I did with Petrino. Didn't care much for him as a person either, but he was the Hog's coach and I was a fan of the Hogs.
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 10:23 am
Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:11 am to WonderWartHawg
Several things for me as well in this regard
The ONE big one though is this: He HAD TO BE the "offensive coordinator" in 2006. Like a spoiled child, he had to have it his way. And coming from high school, that defies all manner of working your way into the college game that every other coach had to do.
Be the WR coach for one year. Just "lower" yourself Gus to be only the WR coach for one year. THEN apply for OC or leave for Tulsa for OC. Fine. Pay your dues for one year.
He couldn't do it. He had to use his money backers to get him OC. OC or bust. Had to be his way.
If he had not done that, I would have supported him from day one, and probably would have been on his side more in regard to other stories you hear about him.
Hell, people I know from Fort Smith who've known him forever, some say he was your typical beneficiary of ubiquitous rigged little league baseball, where some teams get favoritism and some don't. Not my words, some have said his people were always rigging everything in their favor going back to little league. Not a huge deal, I know, but interesting at least.
The ONE big one though is this: He HAD TO BE the "offensive coordinator" in 2006. Like a spoiled child, he had to have it his way. And coming from high school, that defies all manner of working your way into the college game that every other coach had to do.
Be the WR coach for one year. Just "lower" yourself Gus to be only the WR coach for one year. THEN apply for OC or leave for Tulsa for OC. Fine. Pay your dues for one year.
He couldn't do it. He had to use his money backers to get him OC. OC or bust. Had to be his way.
If he had not done that, I would have supported him from day one, and probably would have been on his side more in regard to other stories you hear about him.
Hell, people I know from Fort Smith who've known him forever, some say he was your typical beneficiary of ubiquitous rigged little league baseball, where some teams get favoritism and some don't. Not my words, some have said his people were always rigging everything in their favor going back to little league. Not a huge deal, I know, but interesting at least.
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 10:12 am
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