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re: Taggart just got canned, FSU admin got the brass

Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22781 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:13 pm to
You definitely have PTSC as have I... Bonkers with it as a Hog fan....

But...

Clark
Norvell
Leach
Kiffen
Fleck
Gundy
Heupel
Fritz

Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3907 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 12:22 am to
It's crazy. All of Chad Morris' victories combined over two years will be less than either one of Taggart's two seasons. And he's fired first. Like, I get that we're not Florida State and we can't demand a 30+ year streak of bowls and a NC every decade, but we can demand a conference win. We can demand to defeat G5 teams that struggle to reach bowls. We can demand to decisively put away FCS opponents.

Clark and Norvell should be the obvious #1/#2. They're up and coming coaches who have proven themselves by building their owns programs up from scratch and maintaining that success for more than a year at a time. Guys like Josh Huepel I'm afraid may just be a flash in the pan. He's taken over a well-oiled UCF and has kept it going for two seasons. Sounds a lot like a low-stakes Bert. I'm not saying I wouldn't take him over any coordinator or some shite-arse coach with an overall losing record, but I don't know why anyone would put him on their short list.

Kiffin makes me really iffy, man. I never know what to expect from him from year to year. I never know what stupid shite he's going to do or say. Like, we could certainly do worse than Kiffin. But a staggering number of people are all-in on this guy, and he's done nothing but burn bridges and get pushed out the door. I get the appeal for Leach way more than Kiffin.

We can't keep getting this so horrendously wrong or it's going to encompass our whole identity. We're still in the current decade of when someone won big at Arkansas and shut people up. If we do this two or three more times and we turn around and it's 2029, that's just who we are.
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3907 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 12:24 am to
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Imagine how legit Notre Dame would be now had a small inconsequential lie not been on O'Leary's resume.


Notre Dame isn't doing so bad. They played for the NC in 2012 and reached the playoffs last year. They're honestly more hampered by the fact that they don't play in a conference. It gives them zero margin for error without that conference championship game. A one-loss P5 champion gets in over a one-loss ND every time.
Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18426 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 12:53 am to
Norvell or Leach. If ya cant land those shite cn aChad and do either maybe Petrino as we could use a hard arse for toughness or Nutt on a 1 year contract.

Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25195 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 7:32 am to
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Clark and Norvell should be the obvious #1/#2. They're up and coming coaches who have proven themselves by building their owns programs up from scratch


I would argue that Norvell didn't build his team from scratch though. Fuentes went 19-7 his last two years at Memphis and handed Norvell a team that was humming along nicely.

I am not saying that automatically disqualifies Norvell but he hasn't shown he can bring a program back from the dead on his own yet.

Kiffin is, I agree, a bit iffy in some regards. He has had a tendency to start off hot at a team and then cool down. He's won 6 games this year but his only good win is over Western Kentucky. After taking two payday beatings to start the season the FAU schedule has been Charmin soft.

At this point all of the candidates mentioned are obvious upgrades to Chad, but my cat would be an upgrade to Chad at this point.
Posted by vodka
Member since Sep 2018
1843 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:12 am to
With the particular offensive weapons we have I want petrino back
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:57 am to
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I want petrino back


Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 9:55 am to
Norvell turned the roster over almost completely in the first few years at memphis. He didn't like the Fuentes guys.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 10:07 am to
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I would argue that Norvell didn't build his team from scratch though. Fuentes went 19-7 his last two years at Memphis and handed Norvell a team that was humming along nicely.

I am not saying that automatically disqualifies Norvell but he hasn't shown he can bring a program back from the dead on his own yet.


I believe this was a legit worry two years ago when we were searching but he has kept the train going since then. About the only thing that is concerning is the alleged all the field stuff and his bowl record.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 10:19 am to
Bowl record is real. The off the field stuff can no longer be a factor. I feel quite strongly that my art Briles blitz absolutely had it's intended effect. If there are more (than just me) saying they are ok with giving a dude who covered up rape (that's right. I believe he did it, and intentionally obfuscated that fact) no one gives a flying frick about gambling and dick pics. He seems like a saint compared to the most extreme desires now.


quote:

We have people advocating for Art “covered up rapes” Briles to be our coach, but some possible gambling issues are a deal breaker? C’mon man.


A quote from another board. Who are these people? Well me of course, and the idiots I brought along. So I can see I've already put it in the zeitgeist that fricking a coed at ASU isn't really a big deal.
This post was edited on 11/4/19 at 10:26 am
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 10:24 am to
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If there are more (than just me) saying they are ok with giving a dude who covered up rape (that's right. I believe he did it, and intentionally obfuscated that fact) no one gives a flying frick about gambling and dick pics. He seems like a saint compared to the most extreme desires now.




I'm still out on Briles. We can have a good hire that doesn't have to bring on that level of headache as well. If gambling and dick pics (assuming they were to legal adults) are what the issues were in the past, I couldn't care less about that.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 10:27 am to
It was never about really wanting him (though I would turn the other cheek for the wins he would assuredly bring, and the outlaw culture that would follow. We need that in the SEC.) It was always about pushing fans, and the overall thought that some baggage isn't a disqualification.

ETA: if we hire the right guy this time around yall can thank me for pushing the Overton window so that our pussy admin grew some ballz, and didnt hire Chud 2.0.
This post was edited on 11/4/19 at 10:34 am
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 10:34 am to
I understand what you meant, I was just saying he is still a no for me. As much as I enjoy winning, there are some things I still don't want to get involved with. That line is still pretty high for me as I wouldn't have an issue with Petrino coming back because of the off the field stuff. I just don't want him back because of his last tenure at Louisville. At least not as a head coach.

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overall thought that some baggage isn't a disqualification.


I don't disagree with this but Briles baggage is really past the "some" mark for me.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 10:40 am to
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don't disagree with this but Briles baggage is really past the "some" mark for me.


That was the entire point. Now you no longer feel like fricking coeds, and gambling seems so bad. It could be a dude who covered up rape. It has always been psychological warfare when it came to Briles for me.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 11/4/19 at 10:44 am to
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Now you no longer feel like fricking coeds, and gambling seems so bad.


I understand what you are trying to do to others but my point was I never had an issue with that from the start.

Nothing is really going to change covering up rape to me but I'm sure others have moved their stances.
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