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Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:27 pm to Razorback Reverend
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:27 pm to Razorback Reverend
I don't disagree with anything you said. I'm just tired of all these fire Mike threads when the season isn't even close to over. And, a lot of the people who are calling for his head have no idea who we are going to replace him with. I'm all on board with a new coach if they look like they will be an improvement. I'm just not on board with the whole "Fire Mike now! Anyone would be better" train that a lot of folks are on.
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Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:33 pm to HogFanfromHTown
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I'm all on board with a new coach if they look like they will be an improvement.
I understand what you are saying until this point. We will never know for sure if we are going to get an improvement until we let Mike go. IMO that really shouldn't be a qualifier, you are always going to be taking a chance when you let a coach go. It really comes down to if you think it is worth the risk.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:49 pm to rockiee
unless you are able to set up a new hire, that is seemingly??? a better situation prior to letting MA go. Now, how often does this happen? 
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:56 pm to HogFanfromHTown
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I'm just tired of all these fire Mike threads when the season isn't even close to over.
The season is for all intents and purposes, over. Yes, we could win the SEC tournament and get in the dance, but neither of us believe that, do we? And secondly, you aren't required to read, or even open these threads. If they really trigger you, just pass them by.
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And, a lot of the people who are calling for his head have no idea who we are going to replace him with.
Knowing who we would replace him with has absolutely nothing to do with the idea that he, in fact, needs to be replaced. There are people who make a metric ton of money, who are paid to know who we should replace him with. There are people who give a metric ton of money to the program and university, who have an idea about who they would like to replace him with. The only thing missing in the equation is the decision to fire, and replace him.
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I'm all on board with a new coach if they look like they will be an improvement. I'm just not on board with the whole "Fire Mike now! Anyone would be better" train that a lot of folks are on.
It's not really "Anyone would be better" though, is it? Sure, Heath and Pel are enough to make one question the standards of the decision makers at the university, but at some point we have to land on a better than average coach, if by no other means than dumb luck.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 2:03 pm to Razorback Reverend
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Now, how often does this happen?
Funny enough, it would have to be with a coach that has connections to the school like Anderson did before we hired him. A coach that you feel very confidently won't turn you down. There really isn't a situation like that currently but I don't think that should be a reason to ever stop you. At the very worst we would be hiring a young mid-major coach that has potential. That can turn out great and turn out horrible. Most people are willing to take that risk now though.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 2:31 pm to troyt37
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The season is for all intents and purposes, over.
Not really. Is that fat lady getting ready in the dressing room? Yes. Is she ready to sing? Not yet.
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we could win the SEC tournament and get in the dance
Not necessary. We can't lose more than two games before the tournament but our hopes aren't completely reliant on winning the tournament yet.
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Heath and Pel are enough to make one question the standards of the decision makers at the university
I would assume most all the decision makers from those hires are gone. But yes that id exactly what I fear. We hire a new coach, they turn out to suck, and now we're in a worse position than we were. I do get the argument. Mike was a no-brainer hire and it's highly unlikely we can get someone with that level of resume to come here. There are a few mid major coaches who are known as great recruiters that I would think would be an improvement. I just don't know if any of them would say yes and that's why I'm extremly hesitant to pull the trigger.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 2:33 pm to Razorback Reverend
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unless you are able to set up a new hire, that is seemingly??? a better situation prior to letting MA go. Now, how often does this happen?
Granted, I'm completely ignorant of a hiring process like this, but wouldn't it start with someone with juice telling the right people to start looking?
At that point, I envision someone putting out feelers to different coaches agents, just asking if they would be interested in talking. Once you have 3 or 4 potential candidates who say they would be willing to talk, you can pretty much safely 86 the old coach, right?
Posted on 2/13/19 at 2:40 pm to HogFanfromHTown
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We hire a new coach, they turn out to suck, and now we're in a worse position than we were.
We probably aren't in a worse position that we were before MA, but that really isn't possible, is it? Your statement is pretty much where we are right now, with that exception. We could always drop back down to Pel level I guess, but what are the chances of that? We have done no better than flirt with mediocrity with MA.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 6:41 pm to momentoftruth87
I think Mike is a good man.I also think he is one of the best at coaching the type of system he runs.I just feel this system ,due to rule changes and depth of other teams,is not effective anymore to win on a high level.
The best players don't seem interested in playing this style of ball so that hurts recruiting.
I was concerned this would happen when Mike was hired.
I miss looking forward to Hog basketball games,I forgot the game was on last night and tuned in to the last part to absorb another loss.
Oh well,baseball is on the way...Go Hogs!
The best players don't seem interested in playing this style of ball so that hurts recruiting.
I was concerned this would happen when Mike was hired.
I miss looking forward to Hog basketball games,I forgot the game was on last night and tuned in to the last part to absorb another loss.
Oh well,baseball is on the way...Go Hogs!
Posted on 2/13/19 at 7:24 pm to Stonehog
I posted this in another thread, but there are more Mikers in this thread. Any of you guys care to discuss the program's expectations?
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I've done some thinking about what I expect from our basketball program. Some here have mentioned that Sweet 16's are not a good indicator because the tournament is a crap shoot. I've decided to play along with this theory.
My new expectations for our program: A 4 seed or lower should be achieved once every 3 years. In addition, I will give the coach some leeway, in that, if we arrive in the tournament as a 5 or higher seed and pull off an upset or two to make it to the Sweet 16, that will count in my mind as making it to the tourney as a 4 or lower seed.
In Nolan's 16 years, we were a 4 seed or lower 7 times. We made it to the Sweet 16 as a higher seed once (1996 as a 12 seed). This would mean that, according to my methodology, we had a successful season essentially every other year with Nolan. I do not feel once every 3 years is too much to ask.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:16 pm to Clark14
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I think Mike is a good man.I also think he is one of the best at coaching the type of system he runs.I just feel this system ,due to rule changes and depth of other teams,is not effective anymore to win on a high level.
Mire Fike
Posted on 2/16/19 at 9:45 pm to Hogwarts
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It’s time for a change.
frick this. I know who are you gonna get? Mike is terrible. DGAF about recruits coming in etc, whatever we are doing isn’t working. We need a new coach. But we are young uh huh.
#neveryield
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