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re: Mike's "Most Experienced Team Ever"...

Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:50 am to
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:50 am to
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if he wouldn't trade our last 3 years for Auburn and UT then I have nothing for him anymore. He is truly lost.


Neither of those teams have made it past the first weekend in that time frame.
Posted by Cornelius
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:57 am to
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I think Ed made a mistake on the 6 year thing.

This is correct.

The four-year span is a different story than the six-year span.

The four-year span conveniently leaves out Florida's 2013-2014 season where they went 36-3 and 18-0 in conference.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 12:11 pm to
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I knew this but I was actually curious about what the numbers were so I looked it up


Of course, there is a tactical reason for this too. It's because during the front half of the conference schedule he is looking to expand his bench. He is trying to get more and more people in the game. He believes (and he learned this from Nolan) this should give him an edge later in the year.

And it's hard to argue with his numbers. Just need to carry that edge over into the tournament.

Most coaches try to shorten their bench as the season progresses. Mike does the opposite.

Look for him to start throwing some zone defense in the game plan at this point. The team will get stronger on defense as the season progresses as well.
Posted by Raz4back
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 12:42 pm to
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But only when it comes to Mike Anderson is this a fireable offense


You said this about the recruitment of jucos. Are you retracting this statement?

I won’t expect any apology because you are one of the board’s resident idiots.

This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 12:50 pm
Posted by ShreveportHog94
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 12:56 pm to
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Neither of those teams have made it past the first weekend in that time frame.


Trajectory bro. Both have been higher ranked. Both made it past 1st round last year. Count this season in that and it's not even close.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:20 pm to
As I said, I didn't start that narrative.

Did I add to it? Maybe a little, because I have seen that claim made. The claim being that Mike can't manage a roster. Which is why we have to recruit jucos. I've seen it many times, and stonehog is right to point it out.

But I didn't bring that to this thread.

And don't worry, you wouldn't get an apology even if you were right in what you say. But you aren't.

ETA: Normally the claim is accompanied by a dig at Mike for recruiting "friends or family members."

Everyone has seen it. No use in denying it.
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Raz4back
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:55 pm to
Right to point what out, a lie. No one has bitched about Mike recruiting jucos. In fact, he should have had a couple more in the 2018 class, rather than have a huge class of freshmen. 4 years from now (unless more transfers happen) he’s going to have “his youngest team” again.
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 2:32 pm
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:04 pm to
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In fact, he should have had a couple in the 2018 class .rather than have a huge class of freshmen. 4 years from now (unless more transfers happen) he’s going to have “his youngest team” again.


Agreed for the most part. Nothing wrong with recruiting JUCOs but if you don't want to have rebuilding years and are not bringing in top classes, it forces you to recruit more JUCOs.

Not sure when I saw posters call Mike out for recruiting JUCOs. I have seen them criticize his roster management which doesn't mean you can't recruit JUCOs. A really good example of this is Mason Jones, we need more players like that who are ready to play and adjust much more quickly than freshman. Not saying it is easy but it is a fair criticism of Mike.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:29 pm to
I'm not going to the trouble of going two years into the archives to pull quotes because I don't have a problem with him recruiting jucos.

What I mean by saying I was disappointed that our last team was led by jucos was simply that the team could have been better than they were with a couple things being different. That the juco guys aren't as "experienced" as they may have seemed. Two seniors, but in terms of experience on our basketball team, were more like underclassmen. And it showed at times.

Plus, anyone here that's being honest with themselves know damn well Mike has been heavily criticized for these things. To this very day.

"We lost two guys early to the NBA? Tough shite. It's his job to manage the roster." The implication here is clear. He's to blame for Qualls and Portis leaving and he's also to blame for the step backwards we took the following year. With the team led by the juco players.
Posted by Cornelius
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:45 pm to
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He's to blame for Qualls and Portis leaving and he's also to blame for the step backwards we took the following year. With the team led by the juco players.

Fake news.

The "step backwards" happened in the 2015-2016 season without Macon and Barford. They came the next year and got Mike back to the tournament.
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:51 pm to
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The "step backwards" happened in the 2015-2016 season without Macon and Barford. They came the next year and got Mike back to the tournament.


Yep, we had two Transfers but that wasn't them and they weren't JUCOs.

From what I remember, most people were supporting Anderson after that year because of the JUCOs coming in. I don't see posters criticizing bringing in Macon and Barford. I see posters criticizing for not having a better plan for when they left.
Posted by russellvillehog
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:51 pm to
If not for the refs we beat unc that year as well.
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 2:52 pm
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:29 pm to
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The "step backwards" happened in the 2015-2016 season without Macon and Barford. They came the next year and got Mike back to the tournament.


shite. You're right. Good call. Either way, I didn't bring it to the thread.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:36 pm to
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If not for the refs we beat unc that year as well.


If that had not happened (we were clearly robbed in that game), Mike would have most likely had his Sweet Sixteen and a rematch with a Kentucky team we had just gone to the wire with in a heated,physical game.

And we would still be having this exact same bullshite happening on our boards today except instead of the argument being "no Sweet sixteens", it would be "no elite eights" instead.

That was a very good team. And they took a step backwards themselves the next season as it became the Jalen Barford and others show.

ETA: Actually, the way I see it is that the "No Sweet Sixteen" argument doesn't even hold water to begin with. Arkansas beat that North Carolina team fair and square.
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 3:46 pm
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