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re: Kapita not coming; Williams, Thomas & Beard arrested

Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:56 pm to
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
7740 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:56 pm to
I don't see why Anderson is to blame for all of this. There is only so much you can do as a coach to prevent these kind of things.

If it was something happening year after year, then yeah, there is something systemically wrong. But any coach/team can have things like this happen occasionally.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42348 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

What was MA promised that he hasn't been given?


He wasn't promised new LED ribbon boards for advertising.

It doesn't matter what was promised and has not been delivered, yet.

What does matter is that these simple promises have not been kept in a timely fashion, word gets around in the coaching profession.

Delusion is thinking that firing an established successful HC who improved the program with minimum support for the athletic department will be rewarded in the rare occurrence of established successful HCs lining up to fill the position.

The list of potential candidates would be on the level of Pelphrey or a HC with a decent level of success with baggage for days (Sampson for example).
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42348 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:11 pm to
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If it was something happening year after year, then yeah, there is something systemically wrong. But any coach/team can have things like this happen occasionally.


They fricked up big, allegedly.

I'm pretty sure you can be charged with a count for any attempt at passing fake bills, if you tried to pass the same fake 100 at 4 different stores you can be charged with 4 counts, for example.

A steady pattern would be having players for years picked up for alcohol related offenses from MIPs, public intox, DWIs, to shop lifting liquor from Wal-Mart, but most seem perfectly fine with these offenses year after year from a certain program...
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:14 pm to
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Jeff Long and the university has, at this date, still failed to deliver on promises made during the hiring process of Anderson.


Did CMA have to make any promises during the hiring process or was it more like he had the winning 12 million dollar lottery ticket?

Maybe CMA was forced to make a promise during the hiring process:

If you'll just give me four years, I can guarantee that I'll take this ridiculous program that has never done absolutely shite on the national level and I'll turn it into a program that someone who is really into sports will actually recognize has a basketball program. I mean a fan that is really into sports.

A team that has fan support second to only the top basketball program in the history of sport, I will take that team and turn it into a perennial middle of the pack SEC team.


And....... I can guarantee...............


Let me say it again brothers...............


I can guarantee.................


If you pay me twelve million dollars over the coarse of four years......................


Through the magical powers invested in me by God, I will win a first round game in the NCAA tournament.


I'm not talkin bout no play in game mutherfukers.........

I'm talkin bout a legitimate beat down of a 12th seed or better team. Might even be a powerhouse team like Wofford.

Knowing that beating a team like Wofford in only four years of the lowly razorback rebuild would really be something that would put Arkansas Basketball back on the map......

obviously, Jeff Long started making all kinds of promises he couldn't back up.


Can you blame him?


Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42348 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:20 pm to
Mike's salary has absolutely nothing to do with the lack of support for the program by the AD and University.

Mike's salary is based on the going rate of getting an established HC to leave a program he established.

UK couldn't pull Donovan from Florida, even after the losing season (something Mike has never had) and NIT trips following his Championship team.

But by all means go ahead and infer that Arkansas should be on Kentucky's level while the school supports the program on par with Western Kentucky.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:25 pm to
With the magical season we had last year, finishing 2nd in the SEC with a breath taking five games out of first and getting into the top 32 teams in the entire country, we should have all recognized that an insignificant basketball program like the University of Arkansas would need to take three to four years to reload before we could start thinking about getting into the NCAA tournament.


Much less advancing.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:27 pm to
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But by all means go ahead and infer that Arkansas should be on Kentucky's level



I don't know what drugs you're on, but I'm pretty sure we've got a potential market for them.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

I don't see why Anderson is to blame for all of this. There is only so much you can do as a coach to prevent these kind of things.

If it was something happening year after year, then yeah, there is something systemically wrong. But any coach/team can have things like this happen occasionally


He's got freakin 10 guys to baby sit.


Bert has eighty!
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42348 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:31 pm to
Multiple posts to respond to one post?

Mushed thoughts?

Incoherent rambling?

You are just a few racial slurs away from being banned here just like you were on HiV when you melted down last season.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:40 pm to
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Multiple posts to respond to one post?

Mushed thoughts?

Incoherent rambling?

You are just a few racial slurs away from being banned here just like you were on HiV when you melted down last season.



Dale Denton.
Talking shite about all the sunshine pumpers over at HiV.

You're the biggest hypocrite on this site.

You're biased when it comes to the subject of Razorback basketball so you should do the honorable thing and excuse yourself from further discussion about it while you still have a semblance of credibility.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42348 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:51 pm to
I'm biased because I don't have a problem with last season, which was the best season the program has had since the mid-90s?

I'm biased because I don't have a program with progressing every year after the depths the program found and mired in under Pelphrey?

I'm biases because I realize there were larger problems with the program than wins and losses that were going to handcuff the HC for a few years no matter who the HC was?

Or am I biased because I won't carry a pitchfork alongside you for no logical or sound reason other than envy of salary? That is your cross to burn, not mine.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

I'm biased because I don't have a problem with last season, which was the best season the program has had since the mid-90s?


Nolan won a National Championship with Corliss.

Mike managed to beat Wofford with Bobby Portis.

quote:

I'm biased because I don't have a program with progressing every year after the depths the program found and mired in under Pelphrey?


Sorry Dale, it's year five. The Pelphrey excuse is pretty worn out.

quote:

I'm biases because I realize there were larger problems with the program than wins and losses that were going to handcuff the HC for a few years no matter who the HC was?


Mike certainly overcame those problems with almost supernatural skills with his win over Wofford in year four.

quote:

Or am I biased because I won't carry a pitchfork alongside you for no logical or sound reason other than envy of salary? That is your cross to burn, not mine.


Damn your good.
I was trying to pretend I was just a concerned Razorback fan with average reasoning skills but you busted me out on my true intentions of posting something negative about a coach that has beaten Wofford in an NCAA tournament game.

I'm just jealous over Mike's salary.

hey, you win Dale.

This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 10:01 pm
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:09 pm to
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He is, his hate for Dale is strong.



FTFY

Why would I hate MA? All I care about is winning. I'm poking the bear that is Dale's constant excuse making. Do you disagree that coaches recruit their own problems? For instance, should MA have recruited a known grade risk?

But we probably don't have enough fan support or invest enough and that's why our team is going to suck balls.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:14 pm to
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You are just a few racial slurs away from being banned here


Don't even go there you f'n bitch.

I've got more black friends than you probably see walking around town in a month.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42348 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:15 pm to
So reason and knowledge = excuse making.

You should stick to the NBA, the college game is too complicated for you.

quote:

For instance, should MA have recruited a known grade risk?


What does it matter? The same one bitching are the same ones who said he sucked and would never recover from injury when he committed.

You say all you care about is winning, but nothing Anderson will do will be a win for you, because you are unreasonable and have a hatred for the man that can not be explained by logic.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42348 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:16 pm to
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Don't even go there you f'n bitch.

I've got more black friends than you probably see walking around town in a month.


Sure you do and I'm sure you talk the same way towards them in person as you did on HiV when you were banned.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:28 pm to
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Sure you do and I'm sure you talk the same way towards them in person as you did on HiV when you were banned.


See, now this is where I have a problem with you.

You're a piece of shite that is talking out of your arse.

You know I got banned from HiV because I mentioned it on here the other day.

You obviously don't have a clue why I got banned based on your comment above so you're just taking a shot at it and assassinating my character at the same time.


I got banned while posting in the Political Forum for defending President Obama.

Dale, I could keep arguing with you on here but I don't keep hitting a guy once he's unconscious.

You were really looked up to on here and you still are. I'm a Razorback fan who cares about the Razorbacks more than I care about Mike Anderson, and that is why you are having conflict with me.

I haven't given up on Mike pulling things out of the fire, but it's not looking good right now, and everyone on here not named Dale is just acknowledging reality.

Maybe he can turn his recruiting around, he's still got time, but up to this point he has really sucked arse as a coach of the Arkansas Razorback basketball team.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 10:35 pm
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 11:01 pm to
I like how you just make shite up, ye who knoweth everything compared to the rest of us simpletons.

quote:

The same one bitching are the same ones who said he sucked and would never recover from injury when he committed.


Yet, that doesn't include me. I was excited about Ted.

quote:

You say all you care about is winning, but nothing Anderson will do will be a win for you,


WTF are you talking about? Explain yourself. I wasn't happy with the NCAA win? Sure I was. I wasn't happy about losing the next one? How is that inconsistent with wanting to win?

"Logic." Logic, to you, is never finding fault in a goddamn thing that MA has ever done. Ever.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42348 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 11:11 pm to
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WTF are you talking about? Explain yourself.


Your constant bitching about what you see as faults.

But Mike doesn't run the prinecton offense like the NBA does.

But Mike doesn't run pick and rolls like the NBA does.

But Mike doesn't do this and Mike doesn't do that.

Its easy to find faults when you do not understand what is being done, or trying to be done.

It is easy to constantly pick at the areas of weakness and ignore the areas of strength in any system/strategy in any sport. Which is what you have spent the majority of your time doing while here on the topic of basketball.

I give you the benefit of the doubt of ignorance of the topic, but really it comes down to you do not seem to like what Mike does or how he does it and especially how much he is paid to do it.

So it is a simple proposition, if Mike is so terrible at his job, tell us all who is available to replace Mike and do it better.

Its that simple.

Instead your response will be along the lines of its not your job, its Long's or something to that effect...
Posted by Killean
Port Charlotte, FL
Member since Nov 2010
4669 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 11:16 pm to
Here it is plain and simple:



If those three players are gone, Mike is fricked.



1 NCAA tourney appearance in his career is NOT getting it done.


Stan Heath - 5 years, 2 NCAA tourney appearances.

John Pelphrey - 4 years, 1 NCAA tourney appearance, 1 NCAA tournament victory.

Mike Anderson - 4 years, 1 NCAA tourney apperance, 1 NCAA tournament victory.



Do you SEE the fricking problem here? The Razorbacks look like they won't even have a winning record in YEAR 5. He's fricked, plain and simple.


He will probably survive year 5, no matter what happens. HOWEVER, if Monk goes to Kentucky and we don't make the tournament in year 6, he's gone.
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