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re: I'm not going full meltdown mode, but lets be honest here....
Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:42 pm to Hawgeye
Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:42 pm to Hawgeye
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but why we can't call screen passes on the reg is beyond me
We tried one to AC and Allen threw it behind him. AC turned around caught it and when he turned around to run he got tackled. Had he hit him in stride its a different story.
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:44 pm to beebefootballfan
Again my personel point....they're not using them properly....Williams should be the screen guy...Collins is awesome between the tackles, cut backs, etc....
Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:56 pm to Hawgeye
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We have the best flicking Oline coach in the nation
He may be, but when his only good player is the center what do you honestly expect in year one?
Remember how bad our Oline was last year? You can't magically make it a competitive SEC line when all the same finesse players are here. What does he have to work with besides Swanson?
Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:58 pm to Hawgeye
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This team has gotten worse.
I was thinking the same thing. It's as if the players are giving up. After Allen throws an interception, they're just going through the motions.
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No way is Brandon Allen better than a redshirt senior who is now hurt at NC State. Even if they're even, Mitchell was a vocal leader of this team.
This is quite obvious now and it's a major failure by our coaches. In hindsight, it's amazing how many fans have been vocal supporters of Allen. I don't want to hear another word about how he's going to be a great one, because it's quite obvious that many don't know what that takes. He's just the latest example of why I never expect much from NWA recruits until they prove it on the field, because most are overrated.
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Dick Chaney can pack his shite. TN fans laughed when we hired him. He sucks as a play caller. There is no defending him. He is fricking terrible.
I don't understand what he's doing and offense is definitely our biggest problem. I've heard nothing but positive things from TN fans and I'm not ready to give up on him, yet. But his play calling has been atrocious, imo.
Posted on 10/12/13 at 5:06 pm to redeye
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I don't understand what he's doing and offense is definitely our biggest problem. I've heard nothing but positive things from TN fans and I'm not ready to give up on him, yet. But his play calling has been atrocious, imo.
The problem is that he isn't running his offense from either Tennessee or Purdue. They're trying to mesh two philosophies which is a good idea in theory and could definitely work but Chaney keeps trending to his old ways. He's losing focus just as bad as the players.
Posted on 10/12/13 at 5:08 pm to redeye
You may have something with the NWA recruits....7A football is a joke....I blame it more on the AAA than the programs themselves
In no way, shape, or form a 16 team statewide conference worth a crap...Now that Bentonville is getting another school I really hope they look at creating just a 6A for all the states large schools to play in.
I've seen 6A schools whip 7A schools...there is no point and I think it is hurting our high school footballers.
We have had more contributions from small Arkansas school players than we have 7A kids....
That's just my take
In no way, shape, or form a 16 team statewide conference worth a crap...Now that Bentonville is getting another school I really hope they look at creating just a 6A for all the states large schools to play in.
I've seen 6A schools whip 7A schools...there is no point and I think it is hurting our high school footballers.
We have had more contributions from small Arkansas school players than we have 7A kids....
That's just my take
Posted on 10/12/13 at 5:13 pm to Stonehog
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You can't magically make it a competitive SEC line when all the same finesse players are here
Yes.
An old Orange Bowl starter thinks our O-line is a bunch of finesse pansies. I gotta agree here to as over half that line went onto the NFL. They flat ran over people and Coach B likes that style.
Posted on 10/12/13 at 5:13 pm to Stonehog
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He may be, but when his only good player is the center what do you honestly expect in year one? Remember how bad our Oline was last year? You can't magically make it a competitive SEC line when all the same finesse players are here. What does he have to work with besides Swanson?
We average 5.5 yds per carry and have only surrendered 5 sacks this season.....
How is this an Oline problem?
Posted on 10/12/13 at 5:28 pm to TheCheshireHog
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The problem is that he isn't running his offense from either Tennessee or Purdue. They're trying to mesh two philosophies which is a good idea in theory and could definitely work but Chaney keeps trending to his old ways. He's losing focus just as bad as the players.
What are Chaney's old ways? I'm not disagreeing, but just wondering what that means?
Posted on 10/12/13 at 5:30 pm to Hawgeye
Arkansas is missing the boat on having a much better structure for all high school classifications in athletics.
I also hope NWA blocks itself off to help build more competition within central, eastern and south Arkansas. I'm assuming Van Buren moves Central after the new high school?
This is a whole different topic but I doubt you'll find much debate even from old Rebel like myself. I'm all for mining south and eastern Arkansas for better exposure.
I also hope NWA blocks itself off to help build more competition within central, eastern and south Arkansas. I'm assuming Van Buren moves Central after the new high school?
This is a whole different topic but I doubt you'll find much debate even from old Rebel like myself. I'm all for mining south and eastern Arkansas for better exposure.
Posted on 10/12/13 at 5:31 pm to Hawgeye
We average 5.5 yards a carry huh?
How much do we average in SEC play?
How much do we average in SEC play?
Posted on 10/12/13 at 5:33 pm to Hawgeye
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You may have something with the NWA recruits....7A football is a joke....I blame it more on the AAA than the programs themselves
In no way, shape, or form a 16 team statewide conference worth a crap...Now that Bentonville is getting another school I really hope they look at creating just a 6A for all the states large schools to play in.
I've seen 6A schools whip 7A schools...there is no point and I think it is hurting our high school footballers.
We have had more contributions from small Arkansas school players than we have 7A kids....
That's just my take
I'll have to take your word for it, because I lost track of classifications went they changed from 4A being the largest division.
For the record, I don't doubt that NWA has great teams. I'm solely talking about the players. Like you said, we've had more contributions from small school players and they likely played on worse teams.
Posted on 10/12/13 at 5:33 pm to redeye
Throwing it. At Purdue and Tennessee he was a throw it 40+ times a game guy. He seems to be having trouble adjusting to a balanced offense. When to run, when to pass. The play calling just seems disjointed. There is really no flow to it at all and when times get rough he wants to start slinging it.
Then you top that off with poor execution and it is a recipe for disaster.
Then you top that off with poor execution and it is a recipe for disaster.
Posted on 10/12/13 at 5:34 pm to redeye
Redeye....I posted questions about Chaney to TN fans....here are some of the responses.....
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Chaney has a good football mind, but as others have pointed out, he can get too pass-happy and abandon the run. That could get frustrating in many of our games.
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Yeah, he put up pts with NFL talent, but Tyler Bray couldn't make a hot read to save his life. Playcalling was questionable too. Not all Vol fans think alike on this subject, but I'm glad he's gone.
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He calls a decent game, but there were some head scratchers too. Like 3rd and short, he would call go routes and shite like that. Relies too heavy on the pass, gets too cute with play calls, didn't call many tunnel screens or other screens, etc. I never thought he called plays to the strength of his personnel, jmo.
Posted on 10/12/13 at 5:36 pm to redeye
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I'll have to take your word for it, because I lost track of classifications went they changed from 4A being the largest division. For the record, I don't doubt that NWA has great teams. I'm solely talking about the players. Like you said, we've had more contributions from small school players and they likely played on worse teams.
7A- 16 teams state wide
6A- 16 teams state wide
All those teams make the playoffs....0-3 win teams make the playoffs....You tell me....Just because a school has a large enrollment doesn't mean they're good at football....it is my belief that 7A football greatness is a mirage....
Posted on 10/12/13 at 5:37 pm to TheCheshireHog
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Throwing it. At Purdue and Tennessee he was a throw it 40+ times a game guy. He seems to be having trouble adjusting to a balanced offense. When to run, when to pass. The play calling just seems disjointed. There is really no flow to it at all and when times get rough he wants to start slinging it.
Then you top that off with poor execution and it is a recipe for disaster.
Yea, I agree with you. It's funny to think that I worried we'd run it too much in the preseason.
To me it's more about when they run or throw, then how many times they do it, though.
Posted on 10/12/13 at 5:39 pm to Hawgeye
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7A- 16 teams state wide
6A- 16 teams state wide
All those teams make the playoffs....0-3 win teams make the playoffs....You tell me....Just because a school has a large enrollment doesn't mean they're good at football....it is my belief that 7A football greatness is a mirage....
Well, that's odd and I'd have to agree. Then again, I never understood why we went away from 4 divisions.
Posted on 10/12/13 at 5:41 pm to Stonehog
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We average 5.5 yards a carry huh? How much do we average in SEC play?
Probably more than 5.5 per carry
I don't have those numbers in front of me
Posted on 10/12/13 at 5:43 pm to TheCheshireHog
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Throwing it. At Purdue and Tennessee he was a throw it 40+ times a game guy. He seems to be having trouble adjusting to a balanced offense. When to run, when to pass. The play calling just seems disjointed. There is really no flow to it at all and when times get rough he wants to start slinging it.
Perhaps he's just working with the hand that's dealt him, which is the finesse type player that Petrino left him. Trying to work with that type of player while also trying to incorporate some of 2B's philosophy is what we are seeing on the field
Posted on 10/12/13 at 5:46 pm to SunHog
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I'm assuming Van Buren moves Central after the new high school?
They were central when I graduated, looks like they will be going back once Bentonville finishes their new HS.
FS Northside, Southside, and Greenwood are in 7A/6A Central, if the new HS in Bentonville ends up being 7A/6A then VB will move to central and the west will be made up of all NWA teams.
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