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re: Hey what obscure, probably unproven, mid major coach with minimal Arkansas connection..

Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by Rzrbackguy
Apalachicola, FL
Member since Jul 2014
2533 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:15 pm to
Mike would probably be successful if he'd clean house and hire some actual real life assistant coaches.

He won't...so that leave the AD to clean house and hire a head coach.

Kinda sad, but inevitable.
Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
24506 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Abron was a top 150 player
Cook was a top JUCO recruit
Thomas was a top 150 player out of HS


Abron left after one season for TCU

Cook looked like a fish out of water on the basketball court but nice haymaker off

Thomas shows how bad they are at taking transfers. Not only cost a value contributing roster spot for a whole season as they sit on the bench redshirting but then with Thomas the numerous character issues to get kicked off as a senior.
Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
24506 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:32 pm to
All I’m saying is we’ve wasted some years of great players by what we’ve surrounded them with on the rest of roster. Mike needs to get the players for his system and through seven years he hasn’t been close to doing it. When will he?

If Gafford leaves the roster won’t have a top 50 player on it. Our best would be Garland and Henderson who are the only two inside or around the top 100 because of ESPN rankings. Otherwise the rest are 100+ with 9 150+.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
17810 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:31 pm to
I understand what you're saying. I'm disputing yet another shoot from the hip ARHog post.

You can't look at the players that he pulled and say that he doesn't value those positions.

I agree that many didn't work out, which has nothing to do with whether the position is valued.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18825 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:43 pm to
I'd argue the emphasis on guard depth has been an issue.

We could have used 2 more guards with the athletic ability of Macon and Barford.

Having Garland not eligible and relying so much on Beard the last two years really hurt us.

It's like Mike went out and got the shorter, slower, less length version of Ky Madden all over again.

Having Manny Watkins leave a huge hole in year 7 is a BIG problme.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 4:47 pm
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10749 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:28 pm to
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We just lost in the first round with a team that consisted of 7 seniors




The problem is that we are neither one of the two philosophies. Trying to be the 'athletic', but not there, and not teaching them 'basketball.'
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:56 pm to
And Manny was a walk on
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47310 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:34 pm to
Sean Sutton
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
38137 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

I understand what you're saying. I'm disputing yet another shoot from the hip ARHog post.


I'll shoot from the hip again

13-14 season

1095 pts. coming from the 4
546 from the 5

Williams, Harris, Clarke and Qualls at the 4

Rebounding -3.5

14-15 season

1016 pts. coming from the 4
765 from the 5

Williams, Harris, Clarke and Qualls at the 4
Portis and Kingsley at the 5

Rebounding +3

15-16 Season


92 pts. from the 4
#KeatonMiles

660 from the 5
Kingsley, Thompson and Kouassi

Rebounds 0

16-17 Season

343 pts. from the 4
520 pts. from the 5

Rebounding -.06

17-18 Season

329 from the 4
530 from the 5

Rebounding -1.6

See a trend here?

Bad recruiting, lack of player development, shitty coaching.



Not one player that we have coming in that make me think we make progress at the 4 and 5 position.

This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18301 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:35 pm to
Forgot how terrible Willy Kouassi was, makes me cringe thinking about it.
Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
24506 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:52 pm to
Transfers to Arkansas under Mike as HC

Fred Gulley - 2012
Alandise Harris - 2012
Keaton Miles - 2013
Dusty Hannahs - 2014
Dustin Thomas - 2015
Willy Kouassi - 2015
Jalen Harris - 2017


Transfers away from Arkansas under Mike as HC

Hunter Mickelson - 2011
Devonta Abron - 2011
Jacorey Williams - 2012
Dee Wagner - 2012
Nick Babb - 2014
Jimmy Whitt - 2015
Lorenzo Jenkins - 2015
Brachen Hazen - 2016
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19334 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 1:35 pm to
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Chris Beard!!! (Graduated from f-ing UT)


This guy is the real deal. He is only going to get better.
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