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re: Blaine Knight goes undrafted on the first day of MLB Draft

Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:22 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:22 pm to
Right, that's why I said you have to give him time, can't know for sure for another 2-3 years. Still, disappointing when you consider it's one of those classes you take a lot of players versus the 15-17 average.

Oh well, that has kind of been the pattern. Top 3 class, then a fringe Top 15 range class, back into the Top 5 hopefully next year, etc.



I am also guessing but it may be a down year for the state as well, would make sense too.
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 9:24 pm
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
38792 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

Hopefully this isn't reflective of how Nate Thompson is going to recruit here, the drop off from Vitello is a big one this year


Have you paid attention to his calls as a third base coach?

Not impressed at all with this hire.

Maybe he'll grow on me and be a bad arse recruiter.
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
Member since Aug 2015
8084 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:17 pm to
If he leaves, I say we go out and get the Tennessee Tech hitting coach and maybe even their strength and conditioning coach.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
68906 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

Have you paid attention to his calls as a third base coach?



Yeah, but even still we brought him here for the power he provides as a hitting coach.

And he's fit that bill extremely well as we approach the program record for home runs in a single season.

Recruiting and 3B coaching? Not very good.
Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
24506 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:43 pm to
quote:

Hopefully this isn't reflective of how Nate Thompson is going to recruit here, the drop off from Vitello is a big one this year. But have to give him time.


Do you give sensational opinions on purpose or not knowledgeable on what you post?

Everyone in this 2018 class - LINK from Isenberg up (16 players) committed in 2015-2016.

[Wes Johnson hired June 2016] - flipped RHP McCullough, SS Denny replaced Kohlhepp when he followed Vitello, [Nate Thompson was hired June 2017] - OF Lifrieri flipped from SC to Ark after Holbrook fired July 2017, LHP Taylor, JUCO C Breaux - Sept 2017, INF Wilk, and LHP Wicklander — all committed in 2017.

Johnson has focused on recruiting pitchers but they’ve also focused on 2020 and 2021 hard getting ahead.

Johnson hired June 2016 - commits since in chronological order

18 - RHP/OF Elijah Trest - July 2016
18 - RHP Carter Sells - July 2016
19 - RHP Blake Adams - July 2016
18 - RHP Connor Noland - July 2016
18 - RHP Travis Hester - July 2016
18 - RHP Jacob Burton - Aug 2016
18 - LHP Steven Sanchez - Aug 2016
18 - RHP Wade Beasley - Aug 2016
19 - RHP Nathan Rintz - Nov 2016
18 - RHP Connor McCullough - Jan 2017
19 - LHP Zack Morris - July 2017
20 - RHP Tyler Cacciatori - Aug 2017
20 - RHP Jaxon Wiggins - Aug 2017
18 - LHP Evan Taylor - Aug 2017
19 - RHP Xander Rojahn - Aug 2017
20 - LHP Austin Atkinson - Sept 2017
19 - RHP Trey Valka - Sept 2017
20 - LHP Nick Griffin - Sept 2017
18 - LHP Patrick Wicklander - Sept 2017
19 - LHP Calvin Marks - Oct 2017
18 - RHP Zane Ryan Neves - Jan 2018
19 - LHP Corey Spain - Mar 2018
20 - RHP Markevian Hence - Apr 2018

Thompson hired June 2017 - commits since in chronological order

20 - OF Clayton Gray - June 2017
18 - INF Jacob Wilk - June 2017
18 - OF Dillon Lifrieri - July 2017
19 - SS/3B Jesse Pierce - Sept 2017
18 - JUCO C Josh Breaux - Sept 2017
20 - SS Hunter Cramer - Oct 2017
20 - 3B Cayden Wallace - Oct 2017
21 - C Max Soliz - Dec 2017
21 - OF Braylon Bishop - Dec 2017
21 - 1B/3B/RHP Josh Phillips - Jan 2018
20 - SS Ethan Bates - Feb 2018
19 - OF Jason Hodges - Feb 2018
21 - SS/RHP Austin Ledbetter - Apr 2018
21 - OF Drew Gray - Apr 2018

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Still, disappointing when you consider it's one of those classes you take a lot of players versus the 15-17 average.

Oh well, that has kind of been the pattern. Top 3 class, then a fringe Top 15 range class, back into the Top 5 hopefully next year, etc.

I am also guessing but it may be a down year for the state as well, would make sense too.


We bring in a lot of players every year for tryouts and fall scrimmages.

We are around 15 typically and move up after the draft.

It’s a decent year instate with pitchers but the star power position players are in future classes.

quote:

Yeah, but even still we brought him here for the power he provides as a hitting coach.

And he's fit that bill extremely well as we approach the program record for home runs in a single season.

Recruiting and 3B coaching? Not very good.


His breaking down a pitcher and pregame hitting meetings have been spot on along with our slugging the ball.

Recruiting is much better than he’s being given credit because y’all lack the facts.

Those players didn’t go to Missouri State and end up there by themselves.

Give me an aggressive third base coach that puts it in the defense to make the play or throw every time. If he held runners, fans would be asking why we didn’t send them.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
68906 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:51 pm to
What do you mean? It's okay to be critical, I think 3 people have all said yeah you have to give him a couple of years before really judging, I like how you just completely skip everyone saying that.

Doesn't mean you can't GOD FORBID criticize something, uh yeah, our recruiting class for 2018 ranks 44th in average player rating and that is with 23 commits compared to the normal size classes you see in the 15-17 range.

And again, if the trend continues and he's back with a top 5 class or so next year then all is fine.
Posted by Pigfeet
Ark Mods are Fascists
Member since Mar 2010
19783 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 6:36 am to
I wouldn't get worked up about Ultimate, his knowledge is extremely limited and mostly wrong when it comes to college baseball.

Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
38792 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 7:53 am to
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 9:17 am to
Settle down
Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
24506 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:03 am to
He leans with favoritism toward Mike Anderson and his questionable recruiting which is below average at best most years.

But we question the baseball program that continues producing draft picks.
Posted by Hogsfan005
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Dec 2015
470 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 11:07 am to
Kacey Murphy taken with the 1st pick in the 11th round by the Tigers
Posted by Hogsfan005
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Dec 2015
470 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 11:09 am to
DVH had 0 picks in the 1st 2 rounds this year. Mike could possibly have a 2nd rounder this year.

Mike >>> DVH by a mile
Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
24506 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 11:11 am to
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
Member since Aug 2015
8084 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 11:14 am to
Has anyone heard anything about Cole Turney possibly transferring to Juco?
Posted by Hogsfan005
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Dec 2015
470 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 11:18 am to
Hadn't heard anything about that...I know he's playing Summer ball up north right now. What have you heard?
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
Member since Aug 2015
8084 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 11:20 am to
That he's unhappy about lack of playing time.
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
Member since Aug 2015
8084 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 11:22 am to
quote:

Kacey Murphy taken with the 1st pick in the 11th round by the Tigers


He gone.
Posted by Hogsfan005
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Dec 2015
470 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 11:31 am to
Get frustration there but he's coming off pretty major surgery. I'd assume he'd be an everyday player next year with Cole and Bonfield leaving so that'd be pretty stupid to transfer imo
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7666 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 11:32 am to
Don't know what he expects as a freshman on a pretty loaded roster, not like he lit it up in his few chances.

Good thing Spanberger wasn't unhappy his freshman year
Posted by Hogsfan005
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Dec 2015
470 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 11:33 am to
Wasn't on many radars before this year and he could improve his stock/ make a lot of money being our ace next year. But it is his last year for leverage so wouldn't surprise me either way
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 11:34 am
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