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re: Biddy Luke Fickel update: clarifies Saturday post

Posted on 11/24/19 at 11:42 pm to
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 11/24/19 at 11:42 pm to
The fact remains that I don't know how well Norvell would recruit here.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 11/24/19 at 11:49 pm to
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I am basing it on experience recruiting certain areas. Which he has florida, ohio, illinois, mich and wisc I believe. Wow sounds very similar to bert


What bearing does this have on his ability to do a good job at The University of Arkansas? This is all hypothetical of course. I don't have any skin in it. Fickell isn't in my top 5. It just seems silly to me to say someone isn't fit for a job because they remind you of someone who didn't do a good job previously.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 11:51 pm
Posted by Ham Solo
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Posted on 11/24/19 at 11:54 pm to
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What bearing does this have on his ability to do a good job at The University of Arkansas?


It doesn't really, but I'm in the same camp as the guys that worry about this issue.

We've had two straight coaches from outside of our footprint and it hasn't gone well.

Maybe there's something to it or maybe it's just the wrong guys. We could argue the point forever and not be 100% on who is wrong or right, but based off the last several years it makes me nervous to get a person who's that big of an outsider.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 12:00 am to
Well, and the other thing about that is that Bielema could have done well here. His 2015 team was pretty good. His "plodding dinosaur" offense (misnomers galore) that "wasn't modern" produced passing records here. At least one I can think of off the top of my head is Brandon Allen throwing for 7 TDS in a single game.

That was brought to us by two Midwesterners. Bielema and Enos.

Bielema could have succeeded here under different circumstances I think.
Posted by Ham Solo
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 12:09 am to
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Bielema could have succeeded here under different circumstances I think.


Had he not been a drunk and ran the best of his staff off he had some potential.

He never had a major public incident, but the drinking pushed his best people away.
Posted by Raz4back
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 7:10 am to
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Bielema could have succeeded here under different circumstances I think.


Sure, if he wasn’t a disorganized drunk that people hated working for. Word on him got around and he no longer had the ability to hire quality assistants. Look at his last hires here.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 8:45 am to
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Sure, if he wasn’t a disorganized drunk that people hated working for. Word on him got around and he no longer had the ability to hire quality assistants. Look at his last hires here.



This is all beside the point. The point is that there isn't anything inherently bad about hiring a Midwesterner as a coach here. That's the only point I was making. This whole "Bielema 2.0" nonsense.

And like I said, it doesn't make any difference to me anyways.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 10:08 am to
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We've had two straight coaches from outside of our footprint and it hasn't gone well.


Dallas is outside our footprint? Someone needs to tell admissions this because they spend an awful lot of money in Dallas on a yearly basis.
Posted by HogX
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 10:14 am to
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Maybe there's something to it or maybe it's just the wrong guys. We could argue the point forever and not be 100% on who is wrong or right, but based off the last several years it makes me nervous to get a person who's that big of an outsider.



Outside of the brief stint at Auburn, what sort of connections did Petrino have inside of Arkansas' footprint? Maybe I'm forgetting something.

Posted by RazorHawg
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 10:14 am to
Especially the amount of students and alumni from the metro.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 1:26 pm to
so...
Fickell with an incredible OC who has been at Arkansas prior.
With a oline coach people really like...

and.. thoughts?








Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 1:36 pm to
That sounds like an interesting combo
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 1:42 pm to
Fickell
Dan enos
Pittman or Markuson
Posted by PrescriptionPig
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 1:55 pm to
Or Fickel, Robert, and Pittman?

Posted by Kriegschwein
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:02 pm to
Enos will probably be looking for a job after losing to FIU.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:18 pm to
Fickell
David lee
Anderson
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:19 pm to
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If y'all knew who PRJ actually was you'd probably just skip right past his posts. Pioneerbasketalter wasn't joking.

Pioneerbasketballalter
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:44 pm to
Considering multiple people post on your account, it’s not out of the realm of possibilities.
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Cure
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:49 pm to
Don't understand the lack of context, given the Tressel situation that he inherited that season. The only thing someone could ding him on is for never leaving Ohio, but recruiting wouldn't be an issue.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 3:14 pm to
There aren't multiple people posting on my account.
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