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re: Basic Résumés for Rumored Potential Coaches

Posted on 3/27/19 at 6:01 pm to
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 6:01 pm to
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Its usually best to compare to who you are replacing.


Agreed but that is before you fire him
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 6:05 pm to
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NCAA Tourament win/loss record: 6-2


Just throw the fricking bank at him.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 6:19 pm to
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Agreed but that is before you fire him


Helps as reference point to see side by side.

For example Buzz is at the top of the list, compare, let the faggies have him.

I'm not 100% sold on Beard after seeing the refs win the game for him at home while ranked in the top 10 against this turrible team led by Mike Anderson.

Similar to how national media mentioning Mike Young should get an interview, the same Mike Yong and "only Wofford" who lost to Mike Anderson in the tourney a few years ago.
Posted by rockiee
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 6:24 pm to
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Helps as reference point to see side by side.


If it was a choice between Mike and the other coaches, sure but Mike isn't an option. The only reason to look at Mike is see if there were certain signs we missed and need to avoid.

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let the faggies have him.


Eh, the only thing that is lacking compared to the others is the win%. Best tournament coach besides Beard if purely looking at percentage.

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I'm not 100% sold on Beard after seeing the refs win the game for him at home while ranked in the top 10 against this turrible team led by Mike Anderson.


We could nitpick like that for almost every coach. Not really a good idea to look at one game sample sizes either.

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Similar to how national media mentioning Mike Young should get an interview, the same Mike Yong and "only Wofford" who lost to Mike Anderson in the tourney a few years ago.


Agreed, Mike Young would be very underwhelming. Would not be happy about that hire at all.

Who is the best hire imo?
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 6:25 pm
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 6:44 pm to
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Eh, the only thing that is lacking compared to the others is the win%. Best tournament coach besides Beard if purely looking at percentage.


He's also the only one who took a clear down grade in jobs, but he's only message board fodder, what makes him so attractive to these posters I'll never fully understand. Same with Mic Cronin.

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We could nitpick like that for almost every coach. Not really a good idea to look at one game sample sizes either.


It relevant in that he allowed his team to play down, at home, to the level of a team that cost another coach his job or he was out coached head to head by Mike Anderson.

Its along the lines of the Ole Miss posters here circle jerking all over the board when they hired Nutt. Yeah he beat you every year, doesn't mean you stole a huge prize like you think.


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Who is the best hire imo?


What if the hire was sold as Sampson with his son Kellen as head coach in waiting? Short term with long term possibilities. Would Kellen take this position over replacing his dad as HC at Houston?

Things to ponder on.

Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 6:50 pm to
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I'm not 100% sold on Beard after seeing the refs win the game for him at home while ranked in the top 10 against this turrible team led by Mike Anderson.


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same Mike Yong and "only Wofford" who lost to Mike Anderson in the tourney a few years ago


If we are using that criteria let’s just hire Stansbury or Pastner and be done with it. Both of them beat Arkansas at Arkansas with bad teams so they must be better coaches than Mike

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He's also the only one who took a clear down grade in jobs, but he's only message board fodder, what makes him so attractive to these posters I'll never fully understand. Same with Mic Cronin.


His current school has made the NCAA tournament 11 times in its history. He has gone 3 times in 5 seasons. He has made the NCAA tournament in 8 of the past 10 years overall and he has made it to the second weekend 50% of the time. What is not attractive about that?
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 7:14 pm
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 6:50 pm to
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I'm not 100% sold on Beard after seeing the refs win the game for him at home while ranked in the top 10 against this turrible team led by Mike Anderson.
You're not sold on a coach that's been a top 3 seed two years in a row at a program not known for basketball 2 years removed from taking UALR to the dance because of one game (that he won)? Good lord.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 6:52 pm
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 6:52 pm to
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what makes him so attractive to these posters I'll never fully understand.


I'm not sure how you couldn't see the attraction if purely looking at his numbers. He isn't perfect but he has some very big positives, especially for his age.

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It relevant in that he allowed his team to play down, at home, to the level of a team that cost another coach his job or he was out coached head to head by Mike Anderson.


If you can find a trend then sure but you cited one game. I could find one game for every team in which they played down to their competition. That was my point about the nitpick part.

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What if the hire was sold as Sampson with his son Kellen as head coach in waiting? Short term with long term possibilities. Would Kellen take this position over replacing his dad as HC at Houston?

Things to ponder on.


Not sure, I know Houston fans have already thought about keeping his son if he does make a jump. I would think Kelvin would advocate for his son getting the Houston job if that was an option but maybe not if he wants him to stay on his staff even longer. I wouldn't be opposed to the idea but would also not want it to be set in stone.
Posted by BoarEd
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 6:56 pm to
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Who is the best hire imo?



Hard to say. Musselman has a hell of a case to make. Only been a D1 coach for 4 years but has made the tournament 3 of those 4. Wins 76% of his games.

But that's a small sample size.

I like Sampson, Beard and Musselman. I'd be happy with any of those three.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 6:58 pm to
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I like Sampson, Beard and Musselman. I'd be happy with any of those three.

Throw Marshall in there and that's about where I am. Beard is #1 but I would be happy with any of them. I don't think we go lower on the list than Sampson, though.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:00 pm to
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I would be happy with any of them. I don't think we go lower on the list than Sampson, though.




The whole Mike Young thing has scared me a little but I could work with any of those first 5 coaches that are listed. Musselman has fallen off a little bit for good reason but I still love his background and think he would do fine.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:03 pm to
If we hired Musselman we could have fun posting pictures of that green troll looking dude from Regular Show who's name is Muscle Man. Son of Trucker Dad.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:24 pm to
I feel like musselman would give us great troll bait. Especially how the rant reacts If a team is losing.

There was a stat the other day that said he had the most come from behind wins from a certain time period.

Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:26 pm to
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You're not sold on a coach that's been a top 3 seed two years in a row at a program not known for basketball 2 years removed from taking UALR to the dance because of one game (that he won)? Good lord.


TTU may not be "known" for basketball, but they have been trying for a while now to be.

2001-2008 Bobby Knight
2008-2011 Pat Knight
2011-2012 Billy Clyde
2013-2016 Tubby Smith
2016-Present Chris Beard.

Since 2001 Arkansas has been to the NCAAs 7 times, TTU has been 7 times the sweet 16 3 times (2005, 2018, 2019).

The fact that you've now detached yourself from Gregg's ball and firmly latched to Beard's should be confirmation enough to you that he's the flavor of the weak.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:32 pm to
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If we hired Musselman we could have fun posting pictures of that green troll looking dude from Regular Show who's name is Muscle Man.
You know who else would have fun posting pictures of that green troll looking dude from Regular Show? MY MOM!
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:33 pm to
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The fact that you've now detached yourself from Gregg's ball and firmly latched to Beard's should be confirmation enough to you that he's the flavor of the weak.
Except I literally just bumped a thread from 3 years ago of me advocating for Beard before Tech even hired him. You're awful, Dale.


Continue to try to pose coaches as not being qualified by listing games THEY WON. Idiot.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 7:34 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:33 pm to
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The fact that you've now detached yourself from Gregg's ball and firmly latched to Beard's should be confirmation enough to you that he's the flavor of the weak.


Perfectly put...minus the spelling errors
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:34 pm to
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Perfectly put...minus the spelling errors
Retard 2 right on time.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:38 pm to
calm down little man
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:40 pm to
Another zero substance post from the deadwood.
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