re: Anyone watch True Detectives on HBO?

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I heard that there's a play in the story that if you get past the first act, the listener/viewer goes insane, and that a lot of rust's philosophy comes from that play.

Don't know how it will all fit in, but sounds interesting.

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I don't know much about the actual contents or themes of the play, but you're right about the first/second act thing. Here's what the protagonist in the first short story says about the play:

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I remember after finishing the first act that it occurred to me that I had better stop. I started up and flung the book into the fireplace; the volume struck the barred grate and fell open on the hearth in the fire-light. If I had not caught a glimpse of the opening words in the second act I should never have finished it, but as I stooped to pick it up my eyes became riveted to the open page, and with a cry of terror, or perhaps it was of joy so poignant that I suffered in every nerve, I snatched the thing from the hearth and crept shaking to my bedroom, where I read it and reread it, and wept and laughed and trembled with a horror which at times assails me yet. This is the thing that troubles me, for I cannot forget Carcosa, where black stars hang in the heavens, where the shadows of men's thoughts lengthen in the afternoon, when the twin suns sink into the Lake of Hali, and my mind will bear forever the memory of the Pallid Mask. I pray God will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in its truth -- a world which now trembles before the King in Yellow.

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The line about how "this is gonna happen again" is word for word the same as what Ledoux says when they catch him. You think that's a coincidence?

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I watched the scene with Ledoux again and noticed he doesn't say "this is gonna happen again" but instead says "you'll do this again" so it's not an exact repetition of what Cohle said at the crime scene.

I also noticed that he says, "I saw you in my dream. You're in Carcosa now, with me. He sees you..."

Carcosa is a reference to a fictional city which is featured in The King in Yellow, but was originally from a short story written by another earlier author. It's really interesting tracing the influences on this season. LINK (Wiki about Carcosa)

Ambrose Bierce (original Carcosa story) -> Robert W. Chambers (takes Carcosa and develops it in his own stories) -> H.P. Lovecraft (Cthulu Mythos clearly influenced by The King in Yellow; further develops the themes)

And all of these influenced Nic Pizzolatto and this season.

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I watched the scene with Ledoux again and noticed he doesn't say "this is gonna happen again" but instead says "you'll do this again" so it's not an exact repetition of what Cohle said at the crime scene.

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Eh close enough I twisted the evidence to fit my narrative.

I also think it's significant what Cohle says exactly too:

"This is gonna happen again, or it's happened before. Both."

It ties in perfectly with Ledoux's theory of the flat circle. I don't want to get too Twin Peaksy but I think this story is about space/time and eternity and not just a procedural whodunit. A lot of people, myself included, were expecting the detectives to just solve a murder, but it appears to me that the end of the show may be about Cohle and Hart being reborn and living the same life over again.

Cohle even has a quote about how you can relive the same life but you never remember your past lives because you get reborn.

No kidding. Have you heard the story about season 2 of Twin Peaks and why it was so different?

Lynch left after the first couple episodes to go make Wild at Heart, and they replaced him with a soap opera writer. That's why the middle of season 2 is so sappy with the biker kid falling in love with the older woman.

The reviews were so bad that they brought Lynch back for the last couple episodes to try and salvage it.

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hey replaced him with a soap opera writer. That's why the middle of season 2

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Never heard that. Now I don't feel so bad for bailing on season 2. Should prob finish it one day though.

Season Finale tonight, going to be interesting how it ends. Mainly if they try to slam so much info into an hour slot compared to previous episodes, if it actually reaches a conclusion, or if another season will be spent on this story line.

Already been confirmed that season 2 will be a different cast, different story. I'm ready to watch it, but I think too many people are online trying to watch it because hbogo won't load.

Side Note..

It was supposed to be filmed in Arkansas but they moved it at the last minute for tax credit. I heard for five months from friends in the industry that Arkansas was getting a big flick, I was pissed our state strikes out yet again.



.. Yeah, it's fantastic.

John Goodman to play Seal?