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Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:01 pm to
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:01 pm to
Baylor’s medical team was obviously willing to take a risk our team wasn’t or they are better at their jobs and found a way to better treat or monitor his ailment Regardless, that’s one thing I don’t think we can blame Avery for
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6060 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:33 pm to
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Baylor’s medical team was obviously willing to take a risk our team wasn’t or they are better at their jobs and found a way to better treat or monitor his ailment Regardless, that’s one thing I don’t think we can blame Avery for


How does this have a downvote? It’s exactly what happened. Butler leaving had nothing to do with Avery.
Posted by Gongora
Member since Feb 2015
625 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 10:20 pm to
That might be exactly what happened but it’s not all that happened.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11882 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 10:37 pm to
Was there some pressure applied to the medical team to not sign off on Butler so there were minutes for Jr.?
Posted by Bamafan18
Member since Oct 2018
3692 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 10:48 pm to
I would bet money on that. He only took the job so he could coach Jr and give him minutes
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46259 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 11:22 pm to
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Was there some pressure applied to the medical team to not sign off on Butler so there were minutes for Jr.?



Butler wasn't an inherited Grant recruit. Avery recruited and signed the dude. If he went to the trouble of recruiting a player and getting him to sign a NLI just to turn around and pressure the medical staff into finding something to disqualify him for so he could appear "forced" to play his son then he's obviously a terrible person, but from what I saw out of Avery he wasn't going to go to that much trouble to justify playing his son. He was just going to do it, good reason or not.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9328 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 12:58 am to
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Was there some pressure applied to the medical team to not sign off on Butler so there were minutes for Jr.?


My guess would be it had absolutely nothing to do with AJ and everything to do with Kira signing and re-classifying.
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17250 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 6:14 am to
That’s what I was going to say. I’m sure the heart condition was a part of it (maybe just all of it) but if I’m going with baseless speculation then I would hone in on the Kira angle.

I know nothing would make this board happier than an Avery JR conspiracy, but if anything was suspicious it was the timing of it in relation to Kira’s commitment/reclassification.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46259 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 7:25 am to
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My guess would be it had absolutely nothing to do with AJ and everything to do with Kira signing and re-classifying.


Now I can see that, if we are talking about reasons why Avery may have encouraged the medical staff to err heavily on the side of caution. It could have been some relatively minor medical condition the doctors were on the fence about and Avery nudged them towards disqualifying him so he could sign the elite in state recruit and buy himself a little goodwill from the fans.
Posted by Gongora
Member since Feb 2015
625 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 10:27 am to
No, nothing to do with Jr.
Posted by My2Bits
2500 mi from Tuscaloosa due west
Member since Jun 2012
5647 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 1:44 pm to
He could have encouraged Damon to seek greener pastures and still gotten Butler.
He was clearly a gem Avery had unearthed like Sexton. You don't let a talent like that slip,away especially when we had no ball handlers.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30250 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:16 pm to
Yeah why didn’t he force out Dazon instead of Butler?
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 2:16 pm
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30250 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 3:33 pm to
Anthony Grant has a pretty good basketball team this year. I guess some guys are better off at mid majors
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 5:08 pm to
Found this interesting looking through Oats' tenure at Buffalo regarding turnovers:

'15-'16 (20-15) - Buffalo finished 27th in the country with 475 turnovers.
'16-'17 (17-15) - Buffalo finished 91st in the country with 453 turnovers.
'17-'18 (27-9) - Buffalo finished 108th in the country with 446 turnovers.
'18-'19 (32-4) - Buffalo finished 156th in the country with 433 turnovers.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46259 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 5:12 pm to
The biggest thing that jumps off the page to me aside from the steady improvement is that the difference between terrible and average in terms of turnovers works out to be a little more than 1 per game.
Posted by Gongora
Member since Feb 2015
625 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 5:31 pm to
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He was clearly a gem Pettway had unearthed


FIFY
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 5:38 pm to
Coach Ya supposedly deserves some credit for Butler as well.
Posted by Bamafan18
Member since Oct 2018
3692 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 5:52 pm to
He certainly was making sure everyone knew it on Twitter the other night
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Gongora
Member since Feb 2015
625 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 9:17 pm to
Maybe so. Avery deferred to Pettway for scouting. That’s what I was referring to; not Butler’s recruitment.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 6:50 am to
Yep
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