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re: So is it safe to say Golding is staying?

Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:13 am to
Posted by bamabenny
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:13 am to
Would have needed that or more to beat LSU and Auburn

That count?
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:21 am to
The defense was embarrassed by LSU and Auburn. It is documented for you.

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Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:21 am to
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Would have needed that or more to beat LSU and Auburn

That count?


Because the defense was a putrid pile of shite and the offense made a few bad mistakes on top of that.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:36 am to
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Would have needed that or more to beat LSU and Auburn

That count?




Or the offense could have tried not giving the other team points.

Truth is, our offense sucked in big games repeatedly.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:41 am to
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In no games in 2019 did our offense have to score 50+ points to win a game.


Yeah we only needed to score 47 and 49.

What a tremendous difference.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:48 am to
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Yeah we only needed to score 47 and 49.

What a tremendous difference.


Are we just going to totally ignore the fact that our offense gave AU 14 free points, and put at least 14 points on a silver platter for Burrow and Co to score?
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 9:51 am
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:50 am to
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Truth is, our offense sucked in big games repeatedly.


We played two big games last season and averaged 43 points.

Yeah, we definitely sucked.


... but hey guys Golding and our defense is great even though we have given up +34 against every team he has called plays against with a pulse

This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 9:54 am
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:53 am to
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Are we just going to totally ignore the fact that our offense gave AU 14 free points, and put at least 14 points on a silver platter for Burrow and Co to score?


Who ignored that? I have criticized Mac Jones on this forum.

Are you really going to ignore Auburn and Bo Nix ran up 34 points on our "great" defense?

Tell us how much Bo was able to put up on Georgia? LSU?

Heck even Ole Miss held them below 30.

Apparently Ole Miss must have better talent than us. Their safeties must definitely make Saban's top 6.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 9:56 am
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:59 am to
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We played two big games last season and averaged 43 points.

Yeah, we definitely sucked.


... but hey guys Golding and our defense is great even though we have given up +34 against every team he has called plays against with a pulse



You still haven't told me how many points the offense has to give the other team before you'll recognize the issue.

Our defense had a ton of injuries and was starting 4 freshman in the front 7. More than 50%, among other injuries that ate away at the depth.

Our offense was supposed to be a strength, yet only managed 1 TD against LSU in the first half of the game because of broken coverage, and didn't start scoring at all until their was only 4:35 seconds left in the 3rd quarter.

Against Auburn, they gave up 14 points directly with pick sixes.

So again I'll ask, just how bad does the offense have to get before you'll recognize it's a problem? Is it only when Jalen is the QB?

Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:08 am to
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So again I'll ask, just how bad does the offense have to get before you'll recognize it's a problem?


Offense averages 43 points and he asks "how bad the offense has to get before recognizing the problem?".

Defense concedes 34 to a team even Tulane kept below 30 and defense is great.

No problem there.

You lack any ability to be objective.


Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:12 am to
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Heck even Ole Miss held them below 30.

Apparently Ole Miss must have better talent than us. Their safeties must definitely make Saban's top 6


Just for the sake of argument(becauseI don't really think that transitive properties works that well in cfb), Carlson also missed 2/5 FGs against OM. If he is 100 percent on the day like he was against us, then OM gives up 35 points.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:17 am to
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Offense averages 43



Against AU and LSU, our offense averaged 35 points.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:17 am to
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and defense is great.

No problem there.


Jesus Christ dude, absolutely no one is claiming this
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36463 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:18 am to
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Offense averages 43 points and he asks "how bad the offense has to get before recognizing the problem?".

Defense concedes 34 to a team even Tulane kept below 30 and defense is great.

No problem there.

You lack any ability to be objective.


^can't even acknowledge the question or problems with the offense, yet claims other people lack objectivity.



Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19061 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:18 am to
If Mac Jones doesn't throw two pick 6s we win the game?

We can do "what ifs" forever.

The reality is that even Tulane held Auburn below 30. We couldn't.

What a great defense
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19061 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:22 am to
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^can't even acknowledge the question or problems with the offense, yet claims other people lack objectivity.


I said multiple times Mac Jones threw pick 6s. You can't acknowledge our great defense has tons of talent, yet was underdeveloped at one poistion.

ILB

You can't acknowledge our so-called great defense conceded over 30 to Auburn which even Tulane didn't do.

You also won't acknowledge our offense scored big regardless of how good the opponent defense was.. even with the starting QB injured for the season.

That's an OC doing work. We had consistency.


Anyways, stop projecting yourself and shortcomings onto others. You literally have not one objective bone in your body.

This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 10:26 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55852 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:26 am to
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If Mac Jones doesn't throw two pick 6s we win the game?

We can do "what ifs" forever.


Which is exactly why the transitive property doesn't work in football. You can't factor in how well each team will execute on any given day when comparing two completely different games.

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What a great defense



Please, PLEASE show me where someone has claimed that last years defense was great. Thanks in advance.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 10:27 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:31 am to
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Please, PLEASE show me where someone has claimed that last years defense was great. Thanks in advance.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 10:33 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55852 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:46 am to
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Please, PLEASE show me where someone has claimed that last years defense was great. Thanks in advance.


I think you've confused someone sharing a concrete stat/fact with someone giving the opinion of our defense being "great."
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36463 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:57 am to
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I said multiple times Mac Jones threw pick 6s. You can't acknowledge our great defense has tons of talent, yet was underdeveloped at one poistion.

ILB


You mean the position where they were starting multiple freshman due to injuries was underdeveloped?



Why didn't you mention the points Tua gave LSU? Or the lack of offense in that game until only 4 minutes left in the 3rd quarter?

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You can't acknowledge our so-called great defense conceded over 30 to Auburn which even Tulane didn't do.



I've never called our defense great. Your inability to actually respond to what people are saying goes to highlight your own lack of objectivity that you blame others for.

However, Clemson's great D didn't do any better against LSU. And I'm sure Auburn prepared for Tulane the same way it prepared for Alabama. Do you hear yourself?


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You also won't acknowledge our offense scored big regardless of how good the opponent defense was.. even with the starting QB injured for the season.



Sure they scored big, once it hit the end of the 3rd quarter of the LSU game. Until that point, the offense managed 7 total points on a 4 play drive. Every other drive ended in a punt/fumble/turnover on downs.

The offense also fumbled the ball in the redzone without being touched, and then set LSU up for an easy 7 points with 15 seconds left in the 1st half rather than being smart with the football and taking a knee/sack or basically any fricking thing else.

And yeah, the offense scored on Auburn, but again directly gave 14 pts to Auburn.

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That's an OC doing work. We had consistency.


Consistently shite the bed against good teams.

Couldn't score more than 16 vs Clemson, including get shut out the entire 2nd half.

Couldn't score more than 1 TD for the majority of the LSU game, turned the ball over with fumbles twice, threw an interception with 15 seconds left in the half to give LSU another free 7 points.

Gave 14 pts directly to Auburn with pick sixes.

Last 3 losses right there.

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Anyways, stop projecting yourself and shortcomings onto others. You literally have not one objective bone in your body.



Funny coming from the guy who thinks true freshman ILB should be developed on the same level as the normal 3rd or 4th year guy who would be starting. You're soooo objective!

This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 11:01 am
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