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SEC Team Rankings by Yard Per Play vs Opponent Averages

Posted on 10/30/24 at 12:50 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 12:50 pm
How did you perform (Yard Per Play, Yard Per Pass, Yard Per Rush) compared to what your opponent averages allowing (and visa versa for defense) against all their other Power 4 opponents.

Gives a little more in depth look at the overall numbers we look at a lot with context of how that compares to your opponents to date. Only uses stats from Power 4 vs Power 4 games.

Offense - Overall, Rush, Pass








Offense - Hardest to Easiest Opposing Defenses Faced





Defense - Overall, Pass, Rush








Defense- Hardest to Easiest Opposing Offenses Faced





Net YPPa





Net Strength of Schedule

Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
13439 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:47 pm to
I'll say it again: watching 2024 Alabama is like dating a bipolar woman.

I don't think stats or logic apply at this point, best just to prepare for massive highs and crushing lows.
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:53 pm to
Texas' strength of schedule is
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
16393 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:55 pm to
Those stats show that our defense is middling to below average while our offense is one of the best.

The offense moves the ball well but I'm sure if we show redzone scoring and throw in turnovers (Milroe) and penalties it will show how much this offense gets stifled.

That and weird playcalling at times by Sheridan.


Anyways, what this shows me as well is at our beat we are clearly the best in the conference. The issue is...

If it's not our DC it's our LBs
If it's not our LBs it's our DBs
If it's not our DBs it's our QB
If it's not our QB it's our OC
If it's not our OC it's our OL
If it's not our OL it's our WR/RB
It's

It's always penalties though. It's always bad officiating. It's always lack of focus and discipline.

We sort out one then the other comes apart. We need KDB to sort this out this bye week somehow
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11971 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:33 pm to
Bingo

Just win by one point and on to the next week.

It would be great to have back-to-back weeks of having

1,2, and 5 healthy and playing entire games on offense,

Our punter needs be really good going forward. He was a little off on distance this past week.
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
5630 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 3:15 pm to
We have been doing something - maybe someone along the offensive line or Milroe has a TELL - where the defense knows when we've called a running play. It is killing our ground game to the point where we are wasting lots of important downs. Something is making us predictable.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
16393 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

Our punter needs be really good going forward. He was a little off on distance this past week.


I don't think he has been good all season. Since the UGA game we have seen punters pin us deep while ours gives them a short field because he can't hit it that long
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
16393 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

We have been doing something - maybe someone along the offensive line or Milroe has a TELL - where the defense knows when we've called a running play. It is killing our ground game to the point where we are wasting lots of important downs. Something is making us predictable.


I just think we have weird playcalling that breaks our rhythm.

Then our QB misses a read on a run option or throws an interception or our OL completely whiffed, doesn't move well to run block or commits a penalty or our RB let's air tackle them or our WR drops a pass, runs the wrong route, etc

It's always something
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

Those stats show that our defense is middling to below average while our offense is one of the best.



Wouldn't it be more indicative of a boom or bust offense, which whether that's reality or not it's what we look like to my eyes.

We don't run a lot of plays for three reasons-

The defense struggles to get off the field, which means we have less time with the football. A negative

The offense hits a lot of explosive plays. A positive

The offense has a lot of 3-6 play drives that result in a punt with minimal yards gained. A negative

Maybe the numbers won't say that, but that's how it seems on the surface.

0, 0, 0 punt
0, 0,0, punt
80 yard touchdown

That's 11 yards per play. It's why I'm not crazy about the YPP stat. With how our defense has played for large chunk of the year, we might only get 8-9 possessions a game and we seem to have a lot of short, unproductive possessions which is not an indicator of "one of the best" offenses.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
103250 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 3:47 pm to
The 2 biggest reasons, IMHO, are penalties and busted plays on 1st down - which tend to be missed throws by Jalen or misreads on reads. Then we get in 2nd and 7+ and we've been really bad about forcing something on that down or getting a penalty, which then puts us in 2nd and even longer or in 3rd and long.

The last 3 quarters of the Missouri game were the first time all seasons we've more consistently stayed on schedule on early downs, and I don't think it was a coincidence it was the first time we really let the running game figure itself out.

Early Downs - vs Missouri
Success Rate - 46%
1st Downs Created - 30%

Early Downs - vs Tennessee
Success Rate - 36%
1st Downs Created - 23%
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 3:55 pm
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11971 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 4:02 pm to
I was trying to be kind, but you brought the hammer. I agree with you.


And we need #34 on defense on the field every down. He actually made the tackle on the Mizzou sideline that hurt their QB, and he made the play on the same QB on the Bama sideline that forced the pick.

He has elite speed and quickness.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
16393 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

Wouldn't it be more indicative of a boom or bust offense, which whether that's reality or not it's what we look like to my eyes.


I agree. Just for me the "bust" is all the things I mentioned; penalties or bad read or bad throw or dropped ball or missed block or weak running or..
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
103250 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Just for me the "bust" is all the things I mentioned; penalties or bad read or bad throw or dropped ball or missed block or weak running or..


Yep - parts of the "busts" we have to coach around better ---- play calling to keep us ahead of the sticks, give Jalen easier throws/runs that are high floor in terms of getting 2-3 yards at worst, etc. Part of the busts just require guys to be more focused and do their job --- OL busts that give up a TFL, penalties.

If we stay away from those (and Jalen isn't catastrophically bad like Tennessee) then we are going to have tons of offensive success. If we can't limit them, we're gonna have a bunch more ugly drives.
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 4:28 pm
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
16393 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

The 2 biggest reasons, IMHO, are penalties and busted plays on 1st down - which tend to be missed throws by Jalen or misreads on reads.


I think the OCs playcalling on 1st down drives me crazier than Milroe's missed reads on RPO.

He tends to set us up in situations where we need Milroe to create a miracle.

Far from me to put you to work but what is our distance for 3rd down average each game? We're usually in a 3rd and long which ratchets up more pressure to make a big play happen.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
103250 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

I think the OCs playcalling on 1st down drives me crazier than Milroe's missed reads on RPO.

He tends to set us up in situations where we need Milroe to create a miracle.



Great minds think alike

quote:

Yep - parts of the "busts" we have to coach around better ---- play calling to keep us ahead of the sticks, give Jalen easier throws/runs that are high floor in terms of getting 2-3 yards at worst, etc. Part of the busts just require guys to be more focused and do their job --- OL busts that give up a TFL, penalties.




quote:

Far from me to put you to work but what is our distance for 3rd down average each game? We're usually in a 3rd and long which ratchets up more pressure to make a big play happen.


vs Missouri
- 9 3rd downs
- average distance of 9.2
- 2 of 4 or less yards (2 for 2)
- 7 of 5 or more yards (0 for 7)

vs Tennessee
- 18 3rd/4th downs
- average distance of 9.7
- 4 of 4 or less yards (2 for 4)
- 14 of 5 or more yards (3 of 13) (1 penalty)

vs South Carolina
- 12 3rd/4th downs
- average distance of 6.9
- 5 of 4 or less yards (4 for 5)
- 7 of 5 or more yards (2 for 7)
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 4:45 pm
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
16393 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

I was trying to be kind, but you brought the hammer. I agree with you.


Yep it is actually getting annoying watching him hit them seemingly 5 miles up and 35 yards long

quote:

And we need #34 on defense on the field every down.


Didn't he get hurt against rocky top? I think that's why we stopped getting pressure.

Maybe I'm wrong but I think it was him
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
16393 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 4:30 pm to
Agree 100%.

We have to factor in that crowd noise rattles Jalen which makes him worse but I definitely agree

Just wanted to add... how hard is it to teach Milroe a few solid keys for decisions on thise read runs? Even if he can hit on 3 our of every 4 that makes our offense that much harder to defend.

We make things easy when we're in the redzone because they don't have to worry about him making the right read. They just need to contain with their DEs, push with their DTs and of course DPI #2 and #5 every down
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 4:33 pm
Posted by Kcstills17
Member since Nov 2017
10890 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 4:32 pm to
This is insane considering how much milroe gives up by refusing to run the ball lol
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
16393 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

This is insane considering how much milroe gives up by refusing to run the ball lol


I don't think he refuses. I think he just does the wrong thing remarkably most of the time.

I mean at times he makes it look good when he's suppose to hand off but keeps it and uses his speed to get around the corner.

It was still the wrong read though
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
103250 posts
Posted on 10/30/24 at 4:40 pm to
3rd/4th downs of 5 or less (Mizzou/Tennessee/Carolina) : 9/14

3rd/4th downs of 6 or more (Mizzou/Tennessee/Carolina) : 3/22
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 4:46 pm
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