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re: Replace This With The Basketball Off-Season Thread

Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:37 pm to
all the coaches are responsible for player development and none this year got better. I would clean house including the S and A guy
Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
34777 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:37 pm to
No more ponytail?
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37839 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

Matta would need to hire Bucky or retain Pettway for in-state recruiting purposes


Two quick reactions

1- No AL doesn't need to one of those guys to recruit this state

2- AL isn't so talented a bball state to justify a coach hire
This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 8:46 pm
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
17873 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:50 pm to
U don't hire a HC and then hand cuff him on who he can and who he can not hire. Sold coaching should be enough to get us over the hump now known as AJ
Posted by Canyon16
Muscle Shoals
Member since Nov 2017
3844 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:55 pm to
I certainly don't see Byrne telling a prospective coach we want you but you gotta keep this one & hire that one.
Byrne's far from a moron.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41914 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

I certainly don't see Byrne telling a prospective coach we want you but you gotta keep this one & hire that one.
Byrne's far from a moron.



Yeah that never works......and if we are hiring the best talent we can get, we assume that are smart enough to hire their staff without being told.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37839 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

certainly don't see Byrne telling a prospective coach we want you but you gotta


The premise of this is even kind of stupid as stipulations are only made when a coach wouldn't make the decision of their own volition. Why would Bryne even hire someone who doesn't share his vision for the program?


If it is that important to Bryne, he should get someone who receptive/ buys into the idea on their own

Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37839 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

if we are hiring the best talent we can get, we assume that are smart enough to hire their staff without being told.


Good way to put it.

If Bryne needs to tell a coach how to run their program, it probably is a bad hire.

This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 9:15 pm
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6055 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

1- No AL doesn't need to one of those guys to recruit this state


Based off of what evidence? Sure we could test that theory out, but Alabama has always had one of those in-state connections guys, which is a big reason why we haven’t had problems recruiting in-state. It would probably not be the best time to test that out with Auburn on the rise. But again I’d trust Matta with the hiring process. I’m just assuming he’ll hire one of those guys, or at least someone with some southeast connections.

quote:

AL isn't so talented a bball state to justify a coach hire


My eye isn’t just on the state, but the entire southeast. And for that reason it might make more sense to retain Pettway. It does help to have an upperhand with the top 100 players the state produces though.

This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 9:34 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:34 pm to
For some reason, I believe Matta would do just fine without Pettway or Bucky on his staff
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

And for that reason it might make more sense to retain Pettway.
He's been the only mainstay through both Grant's and Johnson's tenures. He needs to go.
Posted by saban n bear
Member since Aug 2013
2987 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:34 pm to
Getting excited about the possibility of Thad Matta. Looked up some info on him...

-13 seasons at Ohio State
-he won this many games each season (20, 26, 35, 24, 22, 29, 34, 31, 29, 25, 24, 21, 17)
-made Tournament 9 out of 13 seasons, was ineligible in season 1, probably would have been 10 of 13
-1 National Title game
-2 final fours
-3 Elite eights
-5 Sweet 16s

Recruiting

Top 10 Recruiting Classes Nationally..
2006 (Ranked #2)
2007 (Ranked #5)
2008 (Ranked #5)
2010 (Ranked #3)
2011 (Ranked #6)
2014 (Ranked #6)
2015 (Ranked #5)
Ranked 11th - 19th Nationally: None
Ranked 20th - 49th nationally: 2004, 2013, 2016, 2017
Ranked 50th or worse nationally: 2012

Please bring this man here! Automatic basketball school if we ink him.

This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 9:37 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

For some reason, I believe Matta would do just fine without Pettway or Bucky on his staff
Yeah. His resume trumps any "connection" Pettway or Bucky may have.
Posted by Cousin Key
Member since Dec 2017
994 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:41 pm to
Reminds me of when we got Saban. At the time I was kind of hoping he retained Joe Kines on the staff.

A complete restart is probably for the best.
This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 9:43 pm
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6055 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:43 pm to
quote:

For some reason, I believe Matta would do just fine without Pettway or Bucky on his staff


Apparently I’m coming across all wrong

I’ve been parading Matta as my favorite for the position (I mean it’s in the OP of this thread). But I also recognize that he’s never coached in this area. Do I think Matta has to hire one of them to have success? No. Do I think it would help him recruit at a higher level? Yes.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:44 pm to
Yea, I trust that a guy like Matta has plans for hirings to recruit the southeast.

If not, he's not the type of guy we need to hire.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6055 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

He's been the only mainstay through both Grant's and Johnson's tenures. He needs to go.


Through which he has proven to be a very good recruiter. I understand wanting a clean slate, but Pettway makes sense to retain in this scenario. Thad Matta is a proven, winning collegiate coach. Even if Pettway is completely useless outside of recruiting, we should be fine with Matta and 2 other assistant coaches. Almost every school has one of those guys.
This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 9:53 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:55 pm to
Yea, I mean if he wants to keep him fine. But if not I'm not complaining one bit.

Posted by Rolltide10
Guntersville
Member since Aug 2009
1091 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:06 pm to
A friend of mine just told me Matta said no. Anybody else hearing this?
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
13460 posts
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:09 pm to
Everyone needs to go imo
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