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Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:33 am to mattloc
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:33 am to mattloc
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Why is Miller (career 90–47 .657)preferable over Prohm (career 104–29 (.779) other than his elite 8 run? He was 5th in his conference that year.
Because Miller's Dayton Flyers competes in the Atlantic 10 conference with the likes of Davidson, Duquesne, Fordham, George Mason, George Washington, LaSalle, UMass, Rhode Island, Richmond, St. Bonaventure, St. Joseph's, St. Louis, and VCU
All the bolded schools have made deep runs in the NCAA's and several have been to a Final Four.
Contrast that with the Ohio Valley Conference where Prohm's Murray State Racers play: Belmont, Eastern Ky.,Morehead St, Jax St., Tennessee Tech, Tennessee State, UT Martin, Eastern Illinois, SIUE, SE Missouri St. Austin Peay.
Now you tell me which record is more impressive.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 10:47 am
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:45 am to alabamabuckeye
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@EvanDaniels: Source tells Scout that Richard Pitino was heavily in the mix for the Alabama job, but will stay at Minnesota.
Cecil Hurt quickly replied with, "No he wasn't".
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:47 am to pvilleguru
This idea was floated by the alabama intel site. Read elsewhere that Mike Davis is really pushing hard to get back to UA and is promising killer recruiting classes. The talent in the state is going into an uptick period over the next few years. One thing about Davis, he can recruit. He had D. Cousins locked in at UAB and admin there messed it up..for example.
This idea is to pay Prohm, obviously, less money to be Head Coach, but pay Mike Davis a huge (by asst coach standards) salary to have the title of associate head coach. 2 for 1....the carrot for Davis would be if it works he could launch himself to another better job again I guess....and he only makes 200k a year at Texas Southern...they could triple that and he be back home in Bama.
At first I thought this was crazy, but then I thought.....the knock on Mike Davis is his teams are hard to watch on offense.......but Prohm's teams average almost 80 points a game...1st in their conference.
The knock on Prohm is whether he can recruit against Pearl, Howland, Barnes...maybe fight Calipari for a player like......Demarcus Cousins. Well, that is Mike Davis' huge talent.
I hate to say it, and I hate myself for thinking it....but that might just be crazy enough to be interesting if Archie Miller and a couple of others say no. I'd give it a whirl before Richard Pitino or an asst. coach somewhere....but I'd obvious try to get some others before doing it.
This idea is to pay Prohm, obviously, less money to be Head Coach, but pay Mike Davis a huge (by asst coach standards) salary to have the title of associate head coach. 2 for 1....the carrot for Davis would be if it works he could launch himself to another better job again I guess....and he only makes 200k a year at Texas Southern...they could triple that and he be back home in Bama.
At first I thought this was crazy, but then I thought.....the knock on Mike Davis is his teams are hard to watch on offense.......but Prohm's teams average almost 80 points a game...1st in their conference.
The knock on Prohm is whether he can recruit against Pearl, Howland, Barnes...maybe fight Calipari for a player like......Demarcus Cousins. Well, that is Mike Davis' huge talent.
I hate to say it, and I hate myself for thinking it....but that might just be crazy enough to be interesting if Archie Miller and a couple of others say no. I'd give it a whirl before Richard Pitino or an asst. coach somewhere....but I'd obvious try to get some others before doing it.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:51 am to phil4bama
I don't want to scrape together two coaches to make up for our lack of one. This isn't LSU football.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 10:52 am
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:01 am to alabamabuckeye
Trying to figure out when the co-head coaches things has ever worked.
Sounds like recipe for disaster.
Sounds like recipe for disaster.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 11:02 am
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:02 am to phil4bama
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Now you tell me which record is more impressive
Prohm is coaching in the OVC, but he's not playing with A10 quality players. He's going against OVC competition with OVC quality players. His record is still impressive. Yes, I'd rather have Miller, but the constant bashing down of Prohm based on his conference is a bit much. He's playing the hand he's dealt and he's playing it rather well.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:29 am to bamasgot13
Give me a coach from Midwest over one from south anyday. Archie had great bball mentors.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:06 pm to bamasgot13
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He's going against OVC competition with OVC quality players.
A lot of his impressive record is built around his first year where they lost only 2 games. They had an NBA 1st round draft choice that year. The knock on Prohm is that he took over an already built up program. He could work out, but it's a pretty iffy hire. If he works out? Great, we should have him for a while because he's an alum. But if he doesn't pan out, it'll take some pretty bad years and/or a scandal (Gottfried) to get rid of him.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:12 pm to BigBird09
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A lot of his impressive record is built around his first year where they lost only 2 games
That was an impressive year. So too was this season when he went 29-6 including a 25 game winning streak that was only snapped on a tightly contested conference championship game lost in the final seconds.
He's won his division each of his 4 seasons there. He's won 21+ games each of his 4 seasons.
I'm not advocating that we hire the guy. He's still behind a couple of other choices for me personally. I am saying that he wouldn't be a horrible hire simply because he coaches in the OVC. He's done almost all you could ask him to do there - so much so that they just gave him an extension & raise.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:30 pm to bamasgot13
Going into this search, I was hoping we could get a coach that had a track record of winning that went beyond a few recruiting classes. Sometimes a coach is elevated simply due to a few players.
I hope we can still do that.
I hope we can still do that.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:57 pm to FairhopeTider
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Going into this search, I was hoping we could get a coach that had a track record of winning that went beyond a few recruiting classes. Sometimes a coach is elevated simply due to a few players.
I hope we can still do that.
I agree with that. I'd feel a lot more confident in a guy that took over a program that wasn't good, built it up, and sustained it a few years.
But, it's all a crap shoot really.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:09 pm to Teague
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a guy that took over a program that wasn't good, built it up, and sustained it a few years.
Krystkowiak
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:20 pm to bona fide
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Krystkowiak
I would be ok with that.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:23 pm to pvilleguru
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Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN
Two candidates in the mix for Alabama post-Gregg Marshall pursuit: Murray State's Steve Prohm and Louisiana Tech's Mike White.
Ugh
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:33 pm to pvilleguru
Here is his current contract. He's making about 1.75 mil. He only gets an extra 100k for making a Final Four. His buyout is only $1.4 mil over a 4 year period.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:33 pm to alabamabuckeye
Why is White's name being mentioned?
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:33 pm to alabamabuckeye
Lucky's new update:
-Marshall's decision caught the admin off guard because Marshall sent so many assurances that he was coming. They underestimated the family influence and the $$$ from Wichita St.
-Prohm is a likely candidate as a fall back option.
-No benefit to be in a hurry. Sounds like they are going to take their time.
-Marshall's decision caught the admin off guard because Marshall sent so many assurances that he was coming. They underestimated the family influence and the $$$ from Wichita St.
-Prohm is a likely candidate as a fall back option.
-No benefit to be in a hurry. Sounds like they are going to take their time.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:35 pm to pvilleguru
He's mountain west guy for life.
Mike white would be great.
Mike white would be great.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:37 pm to RollTide4Ever
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Mike white would be great.
Doesn't really answer my question. What makes him great?
Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:39 pm to pvilleguru
Have you seen la tech before he arrived?
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