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Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:18 am
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:18 am
That is the total number of runs attempted last night by our genius OC when Ty’s sack numbers are removed. He called 45 pass plays versus 9 runs. Does that sound like even a feeble attempt at a balanced attack? I don’t care if you aren’t getting 1 yard a carry, you have to attempt more than that to get a defense to even take notice of a rushing game, much less keep them honest. No other team that was playing this weekend showed that kind of imbalance on offense. The reason is that you can’t do that and win many football games. Grubb got fired from the Seahawks because he wouldn’t run the ball. Apparently he didn’t learn a damn thing from that. You have done half the defense’s job for them by refusing to run it. It just blows my mind that a staff that is supposed to be so offensively gifted can’t see the folly of completely abandoning a run game because it’s struggling and going totally one dimensional. No wonder our OL can’t keep defenses off Ty; they don’t have to even consider a run, and can pin their ears back and tee off on the QB.
Grubb is not the savant he was made out to be.
Grubb is not the savant he was made out to be.
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:20 am to phil4bama
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:21 am to phil4bama
DeBoer listens to the play calls on the headset. If he wants more runs I'm sure he'd tell Grubb.
Simpson checks out of a lot of plays too. No way to know if he's checking to passes from runs sometimes.
Simpson checks out of a lot of plays too. No way to know if he's checking to passes from runs sometimes.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:23 am to phil4bama
Any other OC would be fired after this last year. DeBoer will retain him because they’re buddies even though Grubb bailed on him the minute he got a better offer last year.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:25 am to phil4bama
I think you should add some context. Down 21-0 in the second half and our rbs aren't the greatest on top of that contributed to the lopsided calls. Our wrs are much better than our rbs.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:28 am to FairhopeTider
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Grubb bailed on him the minute he got a better offer last year.
Putting his play calling abilities to the side, I think this is the biggest problem with Grubb. He did not then and does not now actually want to be here. He came back to Tuscaloosa because it was his only good option. That's a problem.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:37 am to phil4bama
I agree with you that we should have more balance. Our inability to run is killing us.
The problem yesterday was our only individual remotely close to being a competent back was on the sideline in street clothes.
After two years, the fact that we don’t have good running backs is on this staff and if they don’t address it they are ultimately going to face consequences.
But the reality in the here and now is that our backs aside from Jam aren’t talented, and Jam has issues that keep him from being really elite, and I don’t think changing schemes or “coaching them up” can fix that.
Yet people still think all it takes is calling running plays.
And re>Seattle, the Seahawks aren’t running the ball appreciably BETTER this year, they’re actually doing worse in yards per carry, and the biggest reason they are winning more is their defense is better.
The problem yesterday was our only individual remotely close to being a competent back was on the sideline in street clothes.
After two years, the fact that we don’t have good running backs is on this staff and if they don’t address it they are ultimately going to face consequences.
But the reality in the here and now is that our backs aside from Jam aren’t talented, and Jam has issues that keep him from being really elite, and I don’t think changing schemes or “coaching them up” can fix that.
Yet people still think all it takes is calling running plays.
And re>Seattle, the Seahawks aren’t running the ball appreciably BETTER this year, they’re actually doing worse in yards per carry, and the biggest reason they are winning more is their defense is better.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:38 am to phil4bama
I would just like some semblance of an argument as to why running more for 3 YPC was going to change anything
We were in a hole and needed to score. Passing is more efficient than running, hence why the air raid is a thing and NFL teams air it out when down.
We were in a hole and needed to score. Passing is more efficient than running, hence why the air raid is a thing and NFL teams air it out when down.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 7:39 am
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:44 am to phil4bama
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Grubb is not the savant he was made out to be.
The run plays were so successful too.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:45 am to phil4bama
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He called 45 pass plays versus 9 runs.
And three of those runs were on the first series of the game. The first two put us in third and short. And he then called a jet sweep concept with Brooks which went no where. So one-third of the run plays in the game were early in the game. He clearly abondoned the run.
In Seattle Kenneth Walker has a career low 3.7 yards per carry with Gubb as OC. Walker normally averages 4.6 yards per carry (4.6 - 2025, 4.1 - 2023 and 4.6 - 2022). MacDonald clearly wanted a better running game and fired Grubb after last season.
Here are some quotes from the Seattle Seahawks... Unfortunately we've seen this in action.
Disillusioned and Incompatible: Inside Seahawks Decision to Fire Ryan Grubb
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"He thought he was facing Stanford or something," a team source remarked, harkening back to his time dominating Pac-12 competition. "His confidence in his quarterback wasn't misguided, but he took one of our best players out of the game with his own stubbornness."
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By the time New York iced the game with a blocked field goal returned for a touchdown in the closing moments, Smith had dropped back to throw 47 times while Walker had a total of five carries for 19 yards and Seattle had ran the ball a total of seven times with running backs. Completely abandoning the run game in a close contest, Grubb called pass plays on a stunning 87 percent of the team's snaps, leading to Smith being sacked seven times.
Sounds very much like what you posted above.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 7:48 am
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:47 am to Lucky_Stryke
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think you should add some context. Down 21-0 in the second half and our rbs aren't the greatest on top of that contributed to the lopsided calls. Our wrs are much better than our rbs.
This another guy who forgot the details of the game while watching it and simply looked at the stat line after the game.
In the first half, Bama ran the ball primarily on 1st and 2nd down with little success.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 7:48 am
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:48 am to Lucky_Stryke
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I think you should add some context. Down 21-0 in the second half and our rbs aren't the greatest on top of that contributed to the lopsided calls. Our wrs are much better than our rbs.
You’re absolutely correct, the game situation was a factor that may have increased the lopsidedness but it doesn’t excuse it.
BYU was getting their asses kicked by Texas Tech but if you do the same analysis of their game, BYU had 21 run plays vs 38 passes, give or take since the BYU QB had 9 runs and only 2 were counted as sacks, so some may have been designed runs or they may have just been successful scrambles. My point is even BYU tried to keep some semblance of balance despite getting pounded worse than Bama was.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:50 am to Night Vision
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Simpson checks out of a lot of plays too. No way to know if he's checking to passes from runs sometimes
The QB has a speaker in his helmet. If he checks out of a play, it's because the OC is telling him to.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:50 am to UhOhOreo
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Passing is more efficient than running,
Not when your opponent has TWO Safety back the entire series..
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:50 am to TS1926
The problem with criticism for the lack of running is more that we got ourselves down 14-0 early in the game and were chasing points. I think you’d love to see a few more runs but the reality is we are not very good and we’re down 21-0 after punting on our first possession of the third quarter.
UGA had us in a bind. I agree that conceptually you’d love to have trust that an occasional “keep ‘em honest” handoff pops but balance on offense was true and well screwed after Alabama punted, UGA got a decent return then scored to start the 3rd.
UGA had us in a bind. I agree that conceptually you’d love to have trust that an occasional “keep ‘em honest” handoff pops but balance on offense was true and well screwed after Alabama punted, UGA got a decent return then scored to start the 3rd.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:52 am to AlterDWI
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The QB has a speaker in his helmet. If he checks out of a play, it's because the OC is telling him to.
Not always true. Speaker cuts off at 15 seconds.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:55 am to phil4bama
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You’re absolutely correct, the game situation was a factor that may have increased the lopsidedness but it doesn’t excuse it.
BYU was getting their asses kicked by Texas Tech but if you do the same analysis of their game, BYU had 21 run plays vs 38 passes, give or take since the BYU QB had 9 runs and only 2 were counted as sacks, so some may have been designed runs or they may have just been successful scrambles. My point is even BYU tried to keep some semblance of balance despite getting pounded worse than Bama was.
I agree and we should run it more no doubt. I just don't think our ol is good enough to run block and our rbs are average at best currently. Couple that with a QB that complete a deep pass ever and when rattled turns into Spencer Pennington essentially it's a recipe for last night
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:00 am to Diego Ricardo
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keep ‘em honest” handoff pops but balance on offense was true and well screwed after Alabama punted, UGA got a decent return then scored to start the 3rd.
They did that in the 1st half and it got nothing. Georgia just dominated them and that’s it. They are a decent to good team, without injuries they are pretty good. They aren’t a great team or a team that could win a title.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:04 am to Diego Ricardo
Pretty much. Two turnovers. Two short fields. Two touchdowns. We handed Georgia the game in the 1st quarter. Think about it. We don’t hand them 2 touchdowns and it’s 14-7. Who knows how that could have gone.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:06 am to TS1926
Our first offensive play was a run up the gut for 5 yards.
I posted we got a good push with the OL.
Never would I have believed -3 yards rushing total for the game.
I posted we got a good push with the OL.
Never would I have believed -3 yards rushing total for the game.
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