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re: Mbakwe posting TikToks about how thankful we are to have him back. Arrogance on display.

Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:11 am to
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:11 am to
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Bama will just have to manage their roster based on their checkbook. They will have to spend more at the end of spring to keep others from leaving but so will other teams.



Some programs will have a bit more money than others, but Alabama can do that about as well as anyone. Alabama won't lose any games because their pockets are empty.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4846 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:26 am to
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What we all have to get used to is that the players can now "process" Alabama, Georgia, LSU, OSU and whoever else just as easily as they can "process" the players, and that's the part we're really bitching about.

You are exactly right.

The fans want loyalty from “good” players. If a good player transfers out for a better situation for himself or to avoid risk it’s “OMG, where’s the loyalty?”

But if a mediocre starter from Tuscaloosa who loves UA with all his heart just isn’t cutting it and gets replaced by some stud transfer or recruit from California it’s “Oh well. I sure do hate to see Timmy Tuscaloosa sit the bench or have to transfer to Northwest New Mexico State for playing time - but that’s just the way it is.”

The fans want game breakers to sacrifice or jeopardize life-changing opportunities for the betterment of the program, but the fans sure as shite aren’t going to sacrifice the success of the program for the betterment of the player.

To the fans, loyalty goes one way.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
3669 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:00 am to
I keep saying this … fans keep gnashing their teeth and making threats to walk but at the end of the day wanting Bama to be good is a strong incentive to play the game as it is, not as how we’d like it to be.

But you make a good point. What’s happened is the bandaid has been ripped off the illusion that the players care about the school as much as the fans, and the fans hate that because the passion of college football fans for their schools is part of what has made the sport unique.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27774 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 5:11 pm to
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He's not the one with the problem


No, he doesn't have a problem. Nor does anyone else who doesn't give a shite whether he stays or goes.

People who continue to be emotionally invested in the shitshow that NIL has created, however, may have a problem with it. But they can fix that by making different life choices about what's important to them.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27774 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 5:14 pm to
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He's a professional football player. He's doing what professionals do.


Yeah...I don't follow professional football, so whether he stays or goes is of no importance to me.

People have free will. This shitshow can continue to be important to them, or not.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27774 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 5:17 pm to
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but they can also use the rules in ways that turn fans off.


Well, if on opening day next season they have about 100 fans waiting at the Walk of Champions, then someone might notice. But that won't happen.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17881 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 5:53 pm to
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Also, what alot of folks conveniently ignore is that Alabama and all the other big timers politely show the door to mass quantities of players they choose not to "negotiate" with. In fact, Alabama "processes" many more players than they negotiate to keep.

What we all have to get used to is that the players can now "process" Alabama, Georgia, LSU, OSU and whoever else just as easily as they can "process" the players, and that's the part we're really bitching about.


These are facts.

When we process players we laugh, demand a better players and keep things going. Now we want to throw a fit because players can process us?

As a player you're asked to be loyal to a system that isn't loyal to you unless you're really good and if you are they didn't want you to financially benefit when everyone else was making record amounts.

It's a very selfish.

I'm all for regulation but I was one of those who was all for making a structure to pay these players before NIL and I would get insulted and berated for daring to say we should get ahead of things instead of sticking our head in the sand and saying the players are getting a free ride.
Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
2108 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 6:03 pm to
Don’t have a issue or problem with players earning a payday with the amount of money that’s being profited off their talent

But something will have to be done to address the portal issues. To me that’s the biggest problem
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19125 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 6:59 pm to
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These are facts.

When we process players we laugh, demand a better players and keep things going. Now we want to throw a fit because players can process us?

As a player you're asked to be loyal to a system that isn't loyal to you unless you're really good and if you are they didn't want you to financially benefit when everyone else was making record amounts.

It's a very selfish.

I'm all for regulation but I was one of those who was all for making a structure to pay these players before NIL and I would get insulted and berated for daring to say we should get ahead of things instead of sticking our head in the sand and saying the players are getting a free ride.


Well you were right and they were wrong.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19125 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:38 pm to
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I keep saying this … fans keep gnashing their teeth and making threats to walk but at the end of the day wanting Bama to be good is a strong incentive to play the game as it is, not as how we’d like it to be.

But you make a good point. What’s happened is the bandaid has been ripped off the illusion that the players care about the school as much as the fans, and the fans hate that because the passion of college football fans for their schools is part of what has made the sport unique.


Yeah there's no living that lie anymore, and for the most part it's been a lie for decades. The bag man was real before NIL and he's legitimately real now.

Back in the day though the bag man was kept to the shadows but now he's in our faces, and the veneer is stripped from the fantasy that these players attend their chosen school "because it feels like family" or home or whatever other bullshite we lap up from these guys.

There was no such thing as "the dream school" twenty years ago and there's no such thing as the dream school now. In fact, the pretense of all that shite is stripped to the frickin' bone.

The bemused irony of it all is that the game was so much better when everyone cheated and paid players under the table. The players were happy, we were happy, the coaches were happy and the fricking NCAA was happy.

Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
3669 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:55 pm to
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The bemused irony of it all is that the game was so much better when everyone cheated and paid players under the table. The players were happy, we were happy, the coaches were happy and the fricking NCAA was happy.


Truth
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4846 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 9:10 am to
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As a player you're asked to be loyal to a system that isn't loyal to you unless you're really good and if you are they didn't want you to financially benefit when everyone else was making record amounts.

It's a very selfish.

Gospel truth.
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