re: Coach Saban getting riled up . . .

I was never talking about Saban or his comments. I was talking about you and to you.

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I was never talking about Saban or his comments. I was talking about you and to you.

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Oh, look who's mad on the internet...again.

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You must really hate how our players act in the NFL...

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I quit watching the NFL years ago if I'm being honest.

It's more about if the player is making an arse of themselves. I think most people should understand the difference.

Maybe it's in part due to my age, but I love the guys with the right attitude. Fitzpatrick for example, Jonathan Allen, Julio Jones, Damien Harris etc.

Many consider Barry Sanders to be one of the best RB's ever, but go ahead and google his TD celebrations.

One of my biggest regrets in life was when I was 12 years old. I played SS in baseball, and I caught a fly ball and then tagged a base for an unassisted double play. Another parent gave me a compliment and I made an arse of myself rather than be humble. I remember the event not so much because of what I did on the field, but because I would love nothing more than to be able to go back and just smile and "Thank you". Instead I just have to live with my 12 year old punk self.

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Many consider Barry Sanders to be one of the best RB's ever, but go ahead and google his TD celebrations.

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But those two things aren't really related.

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But those two things aren't really related.

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Sure, 1 doesn't cause the other. But it seems like those with the best work ethics are the ones you see less likely to showboat or make an arse of themselves.

I'm not an NFL draft expert, but I'd have to believe they also notice these types of things and if all things are equal otherwise, the guy who just celebrates with his team and is humble about things will be the one they want. It shows more mature character etc.

Meanwhile, what do you think someone like Franks accomplishes by his actions, which is what I think Saban was actually referring to?

It hurts their image. Meanwhile a guy like Damien Harris last year elevated his image by not being that way. Julio Jones elevates his image as a hard worker with great character, etc. Long list of those doing it right and I like that Alabama/Saban has been able to lure those types in.

The way you present yourself is one of the most important parts to a successful life.

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Talking shite to a player on the other team/showing a guy up is totally different than celebrating in my opinion.

For one, it's bush league. But mainly, outside of a select few who thrive in those situations, most of the time it makes you mentally focus on the wrong thing and takes you out of the game. So, not shockingly, it's something Saban would hate.

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I agree, I was just using the ones that don't celebrate as the opposite extreme.

Also celebrating with the team is much different, I like the way Alabama celebrates.

I really think Saban was talking about Franks, who made a fool of himself and the media kind of encouraged it and put it on the TV.