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Clemson on pace to give up more points to LSU than Alabama
Posted on 1/13/20 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 1/13/20 at 9:21 pm
Unless they tighten up in the 2nd half like Alabama did.
I'm sure someone will say Clemson doesn't recruit as well, but it's not that far off. Especially while not suffering many injuries.
Yet everyone talks about how great Venables is and how Dabo only has success because of him.
At the same time, Golding is said to be terrible and needs to be fired.
I'm sure someone will say Clemson doesn't recruit as well, but it's not that far off. Especially while not suffering many injuries.
Yet everyone talks about how great Venables is and how Dabo only has success because of him.
At the same time, Golding is said to be terrible and needs to be fired.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 9:26 pm to 3down10
And against Auburn, Alabama's defense gave up more points to Auburn's offense than every team they played except Kent St, Arkansas, MSU and Samford
Only one of those teams had a winning record, Kent St.
Only one of those teams had a winning record, Kent St.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 9:35 pm to Bamafan4evr12
Bama D only gave up 31 to Auburn, 28 if you take away the gift 3 during halftime
Posted on 1/13/20 at 9:44 pm to Bigfoot67
Bama D gave up 34 to Auburn, 31 if you take away that FG but you can't do that....
In those 9 games against teams I didn't mention in my first post, that's an average of 19 points per game
So the defense allowed them to score 2 more TDs than they scored on average during the season....against teams that many would consider to have "worst" defenses than Alabama
In those 9 games against teams I didn't mention in my first post, that's an average of 19 points per game
So the defense allowed them to score 2 more TDs than they scored on average during the season....against teams that many would consider to have "worst" defenses than Alabama
Posted on 1/13/20 at 9:50 pm to 3down10
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Golding is said to be terrible
That's because he is.
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and needs to be fired.
That's because he does.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 10:23 pm to Bamafan4evr12
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Bama D gave up 34 to Auburn, 31 if you take away that FG but you can't do that....
In those 9 games against teams I didn't mention in my first post, that's an average of 19 points per game
So the defense allowed them to score 2 more TDs than they scored on average during the season....against teams that many would consider to have "worst" defenses than Alabama
It's @ Auburn. Are we now pretending that Auburn doesn't do crazy things in that game?
At the end of a season full of injuries, inexperienced players as a result and a good bit of tape that would allow a motivated team like Auburn to create mistakes?
Posted on 1/13/20 at 10:33 pm to 3down10
Injuries cost Bama a National Championship. It’s just plain shite luck
Posted on 1/13/20 at 10:34 pm to 3down10
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It's @ Auburn. Are we now pretending that Auburn doesn't do crazy things in that game?
So no concrete facts here
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At the end of a season full of injuries, inexperienced players as a result and a good bit of tape that would allow a motivated team like Auburn to create mistakes?
the 11 games prior to the iron bowl don't count as experience? And lack of experience didn't cause us to miss tackles. Alabama wasn't motivated? I mean if they win they more than likely go to the CFP
This post was edited on 1/13/20 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 1/13/20 at 10:43 pm to Bamafan4evr12
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So no concrete facts here
So you don't know about playing Auburn.
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the 11 games prior to the iron bowl don't count as experience? And lack of experience didn't cause us to miss tackles. Alabama wasn't motivated? I mean if they win they more than likely go to the CFP
Do you think 11 games compares to the normal 3 years a player would have in the system before being put in such situations. And that happened many times, not just 1. Injuries didn't just stop prior to the season, they continued all long. They played with no depth, probably getting banged up along the way themselves.
Meanwhile, as I type this LSU just once again scored a TD on the so called best DC in college football right now. And why does have that? Oh yeah, because he shut out Alabama's great offense last year.
But still nobody will dare say a word about the offense and continues to complain about the few mistakes by the inexperienced defense. In a year that even with the healthy players, the offense was expected to need to carry the team a bit.
I'm curious, how many more points would the offense need to spot Auburn before we start to say maybe it wasn't the defense that lost the game?
Posted on 1/13/20 at 10:59 pm to 3down10
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So you don't know about playing Auburn.
I know Auburn pulls shite out of their arse, but I don't recall anything from this years game being crazy
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Do you think 11 games compares to the normal 3 years a player would have in the system before being put in such situations. And that happened many times, not just 1. Injuries didn't just stop prior to the season, they continued all long. They played with no depth, probably getting banged up along the way themselves.
No its not the same, but it doesn't excuse the scheme. It doesn't excuse missed tackles. It doesn't excuse lack of a pass rush. It doesn't excuse 35 being out there in coverage.
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Meanwhile, as I type this LSU just once again scored a TD on the so called best DC in college football right now. And why does have that? Oh yeah, because he shut out Alabama's great offense last year.
But still nobody will dare say a word about the offense and continues to complain about the few mistakes by the inexperienced defense. In a year that even with the healthy players, the offense was expected to need to carry the team a bit.
I'm curious, how many more points would the offense need to spot Auburn before we start to say maybe it wasn't the defense that lost the game?
Okay. Let's go with your argument of lack of experience. Mac Jones doesn't get a pass for his lack of experience?
Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:09 pm to Bamafan4evr12
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I know Auburn pulls shite out of their arse, but I don't recall anything from this years game being crazy
What? They got a FG after time expired. How much more Auburn Luck can you get?
And of course the trick play that screwed up the punt and gave them a 1st down.
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No its not the same, but it doesn't excuse the scheme. It doesn't excuse missed tackles. It doesn't excuse lack of a pass rush. It doesn't excuse 35 being out there in coverage.
Well those are exactly the kind of things you would expect from inexperienced players. They haven't had multiple years in S&C, so they aren't as strong as they would have been before starting. They aren't able to grasp all the concepts, which limits the things they can do as far as pass rushes.
And it's Saban's scheme.
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Okay. Let's go with your argument of lack of experience. Mac Jones doesn't get a pass for his lack of experience?
Pretty much he does. His inexperienced showed a lack of consistency which is what you also see in the defense. 1 moment they are making a great play, the next moment they are making a mistake. To be elite and play to the normal Alabama standard they have to be consistent. And that takes experience.
Mac made a few bad plays/throws, but he also showed that beyond the mistakes he could make some really good plays. Same for the defense. They'll both be good once they start playing consistently.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:36 pm to 3down10
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What? They got a FG after time expired. How much more Auburn Luck can you get?
And of course the trick play that screwed up the punt and gave them a 1st down.
The FG was bull shite, we can agree on that, but that’s on the refs, nothing Auburn did or didn’t do.
The frick up on the punt was crazy, I’ll give you that. But a mental error on the coaches
I’m on my iPad and can’t figure out to quote the rest, too tired and sick to figure it out.
But, yes they’re not as strong and probably fast as they will be. But they still should know how to tackle. The coaches should know not to have Lee covering anybody on obvious passing situations. We have to delay blitzes every time we blitz?
It’s Saban’s defense, but I’m pretty sure Kirby and Pruitt both were far more aggressive and creative. And yes I get it, they had some experience to mess around with. But after 11 or 12 games they should know enough of the defense to do anything to pressure the QB.
The difference though, and the point I’m trying to get at, is that I saw almost no development with any of these guys on defense. It’s been that way for 2 years straight. I saw Mac grow and develop. We saw Waddle grow and develop last year. I saw Billingsly making some plays late in the year.
Maybe I’m completely wrong. The injuries played a role in our failures this year, but there was time to develop those guys and I just didn’t see it. But again, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe Golding is the best DC Saban will ever have at Alabama and was just dealt a shitty hand this year. And I hope he is the best DC we ever have, it means more championships for us and less for LSU and Clemson. It looks as though he’ll have his chance to prove himself next year so we will see.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:09 am to Bamafan4evr12
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The coaches should know not to have Lee covering anybody on obvious passing situations. We have to delay blitzes every time we blitz?
You have who you have. Just because they may recognize someone is struggling in situations doesn't mean they have someone better to plug in.
This is kind of the whole problem with some of you. You expect there to be some super stud replacement no matter how many people are injured.
It just doesn't work like that.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:12 am to 3down10
I get that Kaho/Harris are faster than Lee, but my understanding is that Lee was the signal caller, you can't pull him off the field and you can't make up all that time Lee spent in the offseason learning the signals no matter how much time Harris or Kaho spent.
If we are going to talk delay blitzes, which I think is a far more valid concern about the scheme, I do think there is a component here where we know Saban lives in the film room. If the delay blitzes were not working, but still being called, there has to be a reason unknown to fans. I have no clue why we ran so many and I would love to see more of the aggressive blitzes Golding was known for prior to UA. But, without saying Saban is always right, because that's lame, I do think there is something we are missing in terms of the defense in why delayed blitzes were so heavily favored.
If we are going to talk delay blitzes, which I think is a far more valid concern about the scheme, I do think there is a component here where we know Saban lives in the film room. If the delay blitzes were not working, but still being called, there has to be a reason unknown to fans. I have no clue why we ran so many and I would love to see more of the aggressive blitzes Golding was known for prior to UA. But, without saying Saban is always right, because that's lame, I do think there is something we are missing in terms of the defense in why delayed blitzes were so heavily favored.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 11:18 am
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:13 am to 3down10
Alabama gave up 541 yards to LSU while playing with a depleted defense full of freshman players.
Clemson gave up 628 yards to LSU while playing with the so called "best DC coordinator in college football right now" and a bunch of players who weren't banged up after playing an easy schedule. I've even seen people post that Clemson was the best defense this year.
Let's fire the guy who did better than the "best DC coordinator in college football" because he was surely the problem.
Clemson gave up 628 yards to LSU while playing with the so called "best DC coordinator in college football right now" and a bunch of players who weren't banged up after playing an easy schedule. I've even seen people post that Clemson was the best defense this year.
Let's fire the guy who did better than the "best DC coordinator in college football" because he was surely the problem.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 11:14 am
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