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re: Class of 2018 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: So Long Old Friend Edition

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Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 7:34 pm to
At least the early period will cut most of the bs out
Posted by Dubosed
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 7:44 pm to
Derek Dooley is the offensive coordinator for the Michael Sam Tigers Good frickin God
Posted by Tide or Die87
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 7:46 pm to
Coaching has to be the only job where you can suck and get hired again instantly
Posted by Bham Bammer
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 8:25 pm to
Don't know if Pruitt is negative recruiting Bama right now. I wouldn't put it past him. He certainly will be on Tuesday morning, though.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:48 pm to
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Now Kelvin Joseph is saying he will commit tomorrow.

Wtf?

4-star DB Kelvin Joseph reveals timeline for commitment
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SAN ANTONIO, Texas — Kelvin Joseph had flirted with the idea of committing at the end of the week during the nationally televised U.S. Army All-American Game. 

After toying with that possibility, the 4-star Baton Rouge defensive back has opted to wait until National Signing Day on Feb. 7 to reveal his college decision.
LSU, Alabama, Auburn and Florida State remain the finalists for the 6-foot-1, 190-pound safety, with visits to all three SEC West schools scheduled in the next few weeks. 

“I’m just going to wait until signing day,” Joseph told SEC Country on Thursday during Army Game practice in San Antonio, Texas. 

“I’m just going to wait to see how everything goes with all of the coaching switches and all that.” 

On Wednesday evening, LSU retained defensive coordinator Dave Aranda with a four-year, $10 million contract extension. 

Joseph visits LSU on Jan. 20, Alabama on Jan. 27 and Auburn on Feb. 2. He officially visited Florida State back in October.
This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 11:49 pm
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:59 pm to
Kids today.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:12 am to
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Kayvon Thibodeaux

And dude talking about wanting an offer from UGA... "That's just disrespectful." You frickers can have him.

(for anyone who thinks I'm serious... I'm not... you can relax now)
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:14 am to
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At least the early period will cut most of the bs out


This has been my favorite part of the ESP... so much garbage leading teams on in years past... this year it seemed like a *lot* less of that going on. Also helps kids know where they stand in a class if they aren't offered an LOI to sign in December. Still have a month and some change to sort it out.
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:34 am to
Yep. I think Saban is the only one who doesn’t like it . lol . Let’s you know who is really committed and where to shift your priorities . Don’t see what is not to like
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 5:12 am to
I think Saban's main issue is that closing with recruits for the ESP conflicts somewhat with preparation for the playoffs.

He was out recruiting non-stop from just after the IB to the ESP. It would've been an even more demanding time crunch if we had played in the SEC CG.

After he experiences the benefits of being able to focus on just the eight remaining spots, I think he may decide he likes it this way.
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Posted by Bham Bammer
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:20 am to
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I think Saban is the only one who doesn’t like it .

Lots of coaches don't like it.
Posted by seanpendleton10
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:47 am to
Im not good at evaluating a guy through highlights but the more I read about Q. Walker the more I want to keep him. After this weekend I can see him potentially earning a fifth star??
Posted by bbeck
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:13 am to
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At Tennessee they’re saying I have a chance to come in and play and that’s what they’re saying at Alabama [too]," Peterson said. "But you’re Alabama, I know I can’t come in and play right away. My homeboy is there, Xavier McKinney, he’s one of the best players I’ve gone against. He’s a great player and he didn’t even play, so I’m like, if he didn’t even play when they were up, so there’s something wrong. I don’t want to get up there and just not get a chance. I don’t care about playing but I just want a chance and if you get a chance I’ll make something happen and if not I won’t do it."

This kid sounds mentally weak as hell.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:51 am to
BOL "insider" on Kelvin Joseph:

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Growing confidence around our coaching staff about him..

I still think it’s LSU in the end, but it could be an Xavier McKinney situation.


You know the drill with "insiders." TIFWIW.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:55 am to
Elite '19 DB Chris Steele planning an early decision

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You can make an argument Chris Steele is the most physical cornerback in the country.

He excels in press coverage, beats up on opposing receivers and is a huge hitter. When he comes up in run support, he looks more like a safety than a corner and with his size and skill set, we think he could easily transition to safety if needed.

Steele had a strong showing in Orlando, Florida Thursday and was one of the top corners at the Future 50. He was very good in coverage, made some nice plays on the ball and lived up to his tough, physical rep tossing a few receivers to the ground at the line of scrimmage.

On the recruiting front, Steele has an unofficial visit lined up later this month and plans to make an early decision.

"The main schools I'm talking to right now are Texas, Oklahoma, Michigan, Oregon, Alabama, Cal, USC and Stanford," Steele said. "There are a few others in there too but those are the main ones for me.

"I'm taking an un-official visit to Oregon later this month and I'm planning to take some official trips in April. I had a real good conversation with Donte Williams (new DB coach) earlier today and he's making me even more interested in Oregon. With him and (Keith) Heyward there now, they're going to get some dudes for sure."

As for those official visits he's planning:

"Oklahoma and Texas are the two schools right now I know I want to visit," Steele said. "I'm not sure about any other schools, I haven't put a lot of thought in to where else I'll visit right now but I do plan to take a few more before I make my decision.

"I'm planning to commit this summer. I want to go in to my senior year with my commitment out of the way so I can focus on school and our football program at Bosco. Texas and Oklahoma are the two schools on me the hardest but I'm open to all of those schools on my list right now."

Steele is currently rated the No. 44 prospect nationally in the 247Sports Composite and the Crystal Ball has USC as the school to beat at this time.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:00 am to
247Sports U.S. Army National Combine Team: 2018 Edition

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SAN ANTONIO – From Friday morning through late afternoon, over 650 underclassmen took part in the U.S. Army National Combine, featuring testing, camp drills, 1on1 competition and more.

The 247Sports team spent the day watching the 2019, 2020 and a few 2021 prospect and has identified its All-Combine team. Representatives from last year's All-Combine team include big names such as

Here's the 2018 version.

Overall MVP

Allen (Texas) High Top247 offensive guard EJ Ndoma-Ogar dominated from the first rep of 1-on-1s and punished defensive linemen all afternoon. The nation’s No. 5 offensive guard in the 2019 class, per 247Sports, combined outstanding feet, technique and strength in what was nearly a flawless performance. When he wasn’t driving the opposition back he was simply just a wall. His performance earned him an invite to the All-America game next year. No program is recruiting Ndoma-Ogar harder than Oklahoma.

Defensive MVP

Lucedale (Ms.) George County 2020 defensive tackle and Top100 LSU commit McKinnley Jackson could have easily won overall MVP honors as well. The nation’s No. 3 player at his position per 247Sports had his way with nearly every offensive linemen that stepped in front of him using his extreme twitch and terrific hands to blow by blockers rep after rep.

Offensive MVP

Elijah Higgins, out of Austin (Texas) Bowie, impressed right away on the hoof, ran well and made the catch of the day, a terrific one-handed snag in the end zone. His combination of size and speed was a matchup problem all night.




McKinnley Jackson is committed to LSU, but his coach is an Alabama fan who posts on BOL. If Orgeron gets canned after a subpar season next year I imagine Jackson will open things back up. His coach says he really liked Alabama, but LSU was on him earlier.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 11:12 am
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:01 am to
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First Team

QB: Gunner Cruz: The Queen Creek (Ariz.) Casteel 2019 quarterback tossed dime after dime, doing most of his damage downfield with a strong arm and good accuracy. Arizona State has offered.

RB: Glover Cook: The Louisville commit from Ocala (Fla.) Vanguard made quick work of linebackers during 1-on-1s, typically running away from them downfield for easy grabs.

RB Giles Jackson: The Oakley (Calif.) Freedom athlete tested very well, including a 4.6 40-yard dash during testing. The 2019 recruit was uncoverable with his quick first step, showing the explosiveness you want to see in a slot running back type.

WR: Elijah Higgins

WR: Matt Sykes: The class of 2020 recruit was one of the top overall players at the event. A sophomore from Honolulu (Hawaii) St. Louis high school, Sykes showed off strong hands, the ability to high-point the football, and legitimately caught every ball that hit his hands.

WR: Jaylen Ellis: The Baylor commit out of Round Rock (Texas) Cedar Ridge was as smooth a playmaker we saw at this event, used his quicks to gain separation and turned in dominant rep after dominant rep.

WR Zeriah Beason: The Dallas (Texas) Bishop Dunne 2020 prospect pulled away from cornerbacks and constantly found himself running alone.

WR: Puka Nacua: A very athletic pass-catcher with strong hands and outstanding ball skills. Clinical as a router runner that can also sneak by you and beat you deep. Arizona, BYU and Utah are among others have offered the Orem (Utah) High standout.

OL: EJ Ndoma-Ogar

OL Darnell Wright: The nation’s No. 3 offensive tackle out of Huntington (W.V.) High has every trait coveted at the position and even though his strength wasn’t where he wanted it as he was in basketball mode he turned in some eye-popping reps. Alabama, Ohio State and Tennessee are among the top contenders.

OL Bryan Hudson: The Georgetown (Ky.) Scott County road grader did a terrific job of mirroring pass rushers and sealing the edge. Virginia Tech and LSU are the programs recruiting Hudson the hardest.

OL Xavier Truss: The Warwick (R.I.) Bishop Hendricken offensive tackle had one of the best frames in the building, was smooth in testing and a force in 1-on-1s. Keep an eye on Penn State offering in the near future.

OL Sean Rhyan: An explosive offensive lineman that flashed good footwork in drills. In 1-on-1s, the San Juan Capistrano (Calif.) San Juan Hills used his fluid lower base and strong hands to enforce his will on pass rushers.

OL Enokk Vimahi: Started slow coming off an injury, but once he found his groove he was solid, particularly using his strength to hold pass rushers at the point of attack. He's from Kahuku (Hawaii) High.

OL Jamari Williams: The Coconut Creek (Fla.) Cardinal Gibbons product had some of the best feet of any offensive linemen there and he looks athletic and versatile enough to play guard or tackles.

TE Erick All Jr.: The Fairfield (Ohio) High 2019 recruit with offers from Cincinnati and Syracuse among others was a mismatch for linebackers because of the combination of speed and catch radius.

ATH Marquez Beason: The Dallas (Texas) Bishop Dunne standout made plays on both sides of the ball, a downfield threat that was lockdown in coverage. Offers include Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas and Washington.

DL Marcus Hicks: An explosive defensive end that ran 4.9. He's from Wichita (Kansas) Northeast.

DL Denver Warren: The Aurora (Ill.) West Aurora 2020 defensive tackle showed why he will be one of the Midwest’s most sought after recruits. He overpowered offensive linemen, he used a variety of pass rushing moves to shrug them off in what was one of the day’s better performances.

DL McKinnley Jackson

DL Mosai Newsom: Similar to Hicks, the Waverly (Iowa) Shell Rock defensive end did work in a variety of ways, lining up across some of the best offensive tackles at the camp. Iowa and Minnesota have offered.

LB Tyler Berrong: The Port Orange (Fla.) Spruce Creek product. Big and deceptively athletic. For a guy that looks like a big factor in the run game he was able to run with the receivers and has a good feel for body control and where the ball is coming.

LB Justin Bray: The Collierville (Tenn.) St. George product is a long, athletic kid that looks comfortable playing in space.

CB Tyler Nubin: An efficient corner, doesn’t have a lot of wasted movement, trusts his athleticism, plays physically and has a great frame. High on playing in the Big Ten. He's from Saint Charles (Ill.) North.

CB Mark Perry: A big kid that could play corner or safety, when he comes out of his breaks it’s striking how fast and explosive he is closing on the football. Nevada is the Rancho Cucamonga (Calif.) High 2019 prospect’s only offer.

CB Joey Porter Jr.: Has a great feel for what the receiver is trying to do, can sniff out routes and get in front of the football. The Wexford (Pa.) North Allegheny standout Pittsburgh among others.

S Noa Pola-Gates: Nobody tested better. He ran the fasted 40 of the day at 4.4 and jumped out of the Alamo Dome in the broad jump. A freak that also used that athleticism to make plays during 1-on-1s as well. Arizona and Memphis have offered the Gilbert (Ariz.) Field standout.

S Myles Heard: Was lockdown in coverage, instinctive and physical at the line of scrimmage. Heard hails from Sugarland (Texas) Dulles.

Honorable Mention

QB: Graham Mertz

RB: Romeir Elliott

RB: Cameron Faison

RB: Tahj Gary

WR Sione Vaki

WR Jayden Harrison

WR: Jay Wilkerson

WR: Reginald Johnson, 2020

WR Jadon Jackson

WR Jordan Jakes

WR Xzavier Henderson

WR Ainias Smith

WR Emery Simmons

WR: Jacobby Dinwiddie

OL: Tautai Marks

OL: Donovan Jackson

OL: Jack Buford

OL: Andrew Kristofic

OL: Andrew Vest

OL: Christopher Morris

ATH: Jacquez Stuart

ATH Jahad Carter


DL: Israel Isuman-Hundley

DL: Jack Harris

DL: Curley Young

DL: Siale Liku

DL: Myles Murphy

DL: Shemar Pearl

DL: Albany Casey

DL: Deonte Washington

DB: Devin Bush

DB: Jalen Kimber

DB: Christian Williams

DB: Macen Williams

DB: Brandon Joseph

DB: Deonte Stanley

DB: Kyle Hamilton

DB Vito Tisdale

DB Alaka'i Gilman


Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:02 am to
'19 DB Max Williams setting early official visits

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Max Williams is one of our favorite corners in the 2019 class and always performs at a high level.

He had a solid showing at the Future 50 and is one of the most skills and technically sound corners in this year's class. You won't anyone more competitive and he plays with a lot of confidence every time out.

"I had a good time, this was a great experience for me," Williams said following the event. "It was fun to come up against some different receiver from other parts of the country and have a guy like Deion Sanders coaching us up, that was pretty cool too."

Williams will be coming out with a top 10 soon but gave us a couple of schools that will definitely make the cut.

"I'm not ready to put my list out but Oklahoma, Oregon, USC, Notre Dame and Alabama are a few schools I'm high on and like a lot. Now that we're allowed to take official visits early in the process, I'm close to setting some dates with Oklahoma and Notre Dame for the spring.

"I've been talking with coach Cooks at OU and coach Polian at Notre Dame so those will probably be the first two I take. I'm not planning to make an early commitment right now, I want to play the process out and I'll decide late in the process."


Williams is a four-star prospect rated the No. 87 player nationally in the 247Sports Composite.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:05 am to
DL McKinnley Jackson makes most of Army trip

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SAN ANTONIO - McKinnley Jackson is massive. He’s 6-foot-3 and about 275 pounds. He’s got a full-grown beard. And he’s a 2020 prospect.

It’s hard to believe the George County, Miss., just wrapped up his sophomore season and has two left before heading to college. He could easily pass as a college player right now.

“Some people still have trouble believing that,” Jackson said.

Believe it. The 2020 star dominated the Army National Combine on Friday and has the physical skills and technique to take over whenever he pleases.

Already committed to LSU, the Tigers look like they got a steal early on.

“It’s something deeper than football,” Jackson said of his relationship with the LSU coaches. “There is a family feel. Like my team in high school, they’re like my brothers. I’ve been playing with them since Pee Wee. At LSU, it’s just like the same thing.

“Even the coaching staff, they feel like father figures to me. Even some of the coaches feel like brothers to me. There is a close bond.”

McKinley has quickly developed solid relationships across LSU’s coaching staff. None might be better than with coach Ed Orgeron, and that could be crucial to keep the 2020 standout in the recruiting class.

“I know he’s going to make me a better man,” Jackson said.

“Coach (Dennis) Johnson is from a small town just like me and we come from nothing, making it out, and we’re making it work.”

Many other schools have already gotten involved in Jackson’s recruitment with Clemson and Alabama being the first two the George County standout mentioned. Auburn, Florida State, Ole Miss and Mississippi State among others will be in the mix as well.

For McKinley, his decision is done. There could be some homework done on other top programs but the Tigers might be tough to beat.

“I really like (Clemson and Alabama) but I’m really on LSU,” Jackson said. “I’m not making any rash decisions. It’s just LSU and I’ll go from there.”
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:08 am to
Army All-American Combine: Top performers

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SAN ANTONIO – One year ago Carterville, Ill., tight end Luke Ford came to the U.S. Army All-American Combine with zero offers and little fanfare. His performance that day catapulted the now four-star prospect into more than two dozen offers and a spot in Saturday's 2018 U.S. Army All-American Bowl.

Nearly 800 kids from Hawaii to Rhode Island took part in this year’s Army Combine, and perhaps one of the standouts listed below is in for a Luke Ford-type rise over the next year.
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