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re: Class of 2018 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: So Long Old Friend Edition
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:39 pm to TideSaint
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:39 pm to TideSaint
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#18 Miami
Though the coaching staff is still pursuing 5-star defensive end Micah Parsons and 5-star corner Patrick Surtain Jr., Miami is really more of an afterthought in those recruitments.
But if the 'Canes aren't leading the chase for cornerback Tyson Campbell, they're certainly near the front.
According to Andrew Ivins of 247Sports, the 4-star said he plans to visit Clemson and Ohio State and may travel to Florida and Florida State. Miami has plenty of competition for the local product, but he'd solidify what is already a terrific haul of defensive backs.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:41 pm to TideSaint
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#12 Penn State
Like Georgia, Penn State is trying to keep an elite prospect at home. The school even held a commitment from Micah Parsons, the No. 2 overall prospect in the class.
But the 5-star has opened his recruitment, and the contenders appear to be Alabama, Clemson, Florida State, Georgia, Miami, Nebraska, Ohio State and Penn State at this point.
While he's been a regular unofficial visitor to University Park, Parsons' five official trips during the fall will likely shape his decision.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:42 pm to TideSaint
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#11 Auburn
Auburn could have anywhere from one to three years of Jarrett Stidham. Unless Sean White takes a redshirt, the incumbent starter only has two more seasons on the Plains.
Consequent to Woody Barrett's transfer, Gus Malzahn now has a potential quarterback problem in the future. Fields would eliminate that issue in a hurry.
Since backing off a pledge to Penn State, Fields has unofficially visited Georgia, Auburn, Florida State and Florida.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:43 pm to TideSaint
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#6 LSU
When a player of Patrick Surtain Jr.'s ability considers a school a leader at any time, it's a huge disappointment to miss on him.
Such would be the case for LSU, which received that nod from the 5-star cornerback in late May, per Billy Embody of Scout. The country's No. 3 overall player said the Tigers held an advantage over Ohio State, Florida, Florida State and Clemson.
A decision might not be in the immediate future, but Embody notes Surtain said he's thinking about committing during the season.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:44 pm to TideSaint
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#2 Florida State
Beyond "he's really good," there's a trend of why Fields is a high-value target for three Top 25 programs.
Just like Florida and Auburn, Florida State has a potential depth issue looming at quarterback. Deondre Francois is the clear-cut starter as long as he's in Tallahassee, but the redshirt sophomore will be draft-eligible following the 2017 campaign.
Then, who's up next?
Now that Malik Henry has transferred, the 'Noles will be handing the reins to either J.J. Cosentino, Bailey Hockman or a 2018 signee. The favorable path to playing time might draw Fields to FSU.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:45 pm to TideSaint
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#1 Alabama
Sound the alarms! It's already late June and Alabama's recruiting class isn't ranked in the Top 25! Or 35! Or even 45!
The molasses-like start probably means a string of commitments is coming soon for Nick Saban and the Crimson Tide. And while that potential whirlwind might not begin with Justyn Ross, Alabama would love to add the 5-star receiver during the stretch.
Rated No. 15 nationally, the in-state product also has Auburn, Clemson, Florida and Florida State in his final five.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:48 pm to TideSaint
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Alabama’s consistent success is the standard to which all programs aspire. Nick Saban's program has spent the better part of the last decade churning out 11-or-more win seasons, earning No. 1 rankings in the major polls and competing for national championships. With so many other programs across the country committed to winning at the highest level, this should not be possible. The Crimson Tide make it look so easy, it feels like they’re operating on autopilot.
For as dominant as Alabama has been on the field, however, what it has accomplished off of it is just as mind-boggling. Dating to Saban’s first full recruiting cycle in 2008, the Crimson Tide have only once signed a class that finished outside the top five of Scout.com’s team rankings, and they’ve had the No. 1 class four times. According to a different scouting service, Alabama has compiled the top haul in the country seven years in a row.
The acquisition of so much first-rate talent is the driving force behind the Crimson Tide’s dynastic run. Yet as it approaches another season with College Football Playoff-or-bust expectations, Alabama seems to be tracking toward a serious downturn in its recruiting. As of Wednesday, it counted only five commitments and ranked 47th in Scout.com’s 2018 team rankings, below schools such as Kansas, Vanderbilt, Syracuse, Boston College and Iowa State.
There’s a major shock factor when you read that list of Power 5 also-rans, but it probably won’t end up mattering all that much. Alabama is almost certainly going to be fine.
The Crimson Tide’s class doesn’t look great in full right now, and that won’t change overnight, but they’re beginning to generate some momentum on the trail, even with Tuesday’s swing-and-miss on five-star running back Zamir White. Alabama has secured verbal commitments from three players just this month: Four-star Crisp County (Ga.) High linebacker Quay Walker, four-star St. Paul’s Episcopal (Ala.) School cornerback Jalyn Armour-Davis and Nation Ford (S.C.) High’s Skyler DeLong, the nation’s top punter.
One reason the Crimson Tide have been slower out of the gates this cycle could be the size of the haul. Saban said on a teleconference in May that Alabama’s 2018 class will comprise “I think it’s 22 [players] this year or whatever.” With fewer scholarships to hand out (the Crimson Tide signed 26 recruits in 2017), it’s possible Saban and his assistants are not pressing for early pledges with as much urgency as they would if they had more room. That approach may ultimately pay off in the form of a more esteemed class on a per-player basis.
In the interim, however, Alabama needs to grapple with a hastened timetable due to the implementation of a late-December signing period this year. Depending on the number of Crimson Tide targets who decide to put pen to paper in that window, Alabama may have to work more quickly than in previous years, when players who didn’t enroll early had no choice but to ink their NLIs in early February.
Perhaps the most notable aspect of Alabama’s class, other than its number of commitments, is the absence of a quarterback. Recruits at that position often help attract ones at other positions, like wideouts or tight ends, who want to line up alongside the QB and reap the statistical rewards of his throws. Auburn QB pledge Joey Gatewood, for example, told Sports Illustrated last year that one of the reasons he committed to the Tigers as a sophomore was so that he could “start recruiting other kids that I want playing on my team.”
Alabama does not have a signal-caller to serve as the pied piper of its class, and it’s unclear whether it will be able to add one. Only three of Scout.com’s top 26 QBs in the class of 2018 remain uncommitted, and the Crimson Tide are not considered the clear frontrunner for any of them. Maybe the presence of a true sophomore starter (Jalen Hurts) and a highly touted true freshman reserve (Tua Tagovailoa) is driving top 2018 passers away from Tuscaloosa.
At the same time, should Alabama not take a QB in this class, it would hardly be a devastating blow. The same reason prospects may be reticent to join a crowded quarterback rotation is cause for optimism in the here and now: The Crimson Tide have promising youth at the most important position on the field. And anyway, the lack of a verbally committed QB probably isn’t the main culprit for Alabama’s modest returns in the 2018 cycle to date.
A more convincing explanation is the program’s coaching staff turnover. Since the end of the 2016 regular season, Alabama has lost its offensive coordinator (Lane Kiffin), his one-game replacement (Steve Sarkisian), its offensive line coach (Mario Cristobal) and its wide receivers coach (Billy Napier). The Crimson Tide also waved farewell to their defensive coordinator (Kirby Smart), defensive backs coach (Mel Tucker) and defensive line coach (Bo Davis) after the conclusion of the 2015 regular season.
Saban may go down as the best recruiter ever, but his success owes in large part to the connections his assistants have spent months cultivating with prospects. Staff changes disrupt that process, leaving the Crimson Tide in a position where they need to make up ground on other programs that have more staff continuity and longer-standing relationships with players. Closing that gap takes time, even for a program whose pitch might as well be as simple as, “Here’s our trophy case.”
None of the above, however, gets at the basic fact that Alabama can point to as a retort to the rankings: It’s not done. The Crimson Tide are still in contention for a handful of top-tier prospects who have yet to end their recruitments, including five-star Long Beach Poly (Calif.) High quarterback Matt Corral, five-star Central (Ala.) High wide receiver Justyn Ross and four-star Colquitt County (Ga.) High linebacker JJ Peterson.
Some of Alabama’s top targets may choose to put off their college reveals until closer to the December period or later, which could keep the Crimson Tide’s ranking down for a while. Yet that could also position Alabama for a rousing close that vaults it past other programs that have gotten most of their work done by the start of the season. The low pledge count could lead to some temporary second-guessing, but that’s an acceptable trade-off for a fruitful final stretch of the cycle in which they seal a handful of bluechippers.
In the short term, Alabama’s standing in the rankings relative to other programs will feel, well, weird. It’s ranked 10 spots below Cincinnati! Since Saban took over, the Crimson Tide have become as synonymous with SEC banners as they have with a roster stocked with so many four- and five-stars that their second-string unit would acquit itself well against most programs’ first teams. Alabama should add another heap of talent of that caliber in its 2018 class. It just doesn’t have it right now.
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:50 pm to TideSaint
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The three top wide receivers in the 2018 recruiting class are all uncommitted. Bleacher Report's Michael Felder and Stephen Nelson break down where they believe these ballers should go play at the next level.
Where do you think they should play in college?
Watch the video and let us know!
LINK with video
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:52 pm to TideSaint
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The 2018 recruiting class is full of talent. Bleacher Report's Stephen Nelson and Michael Felder discuss the dream QB-WR duos that we could see at the next level.
Who do you want to see play together in college?
Watch the video and let us know!
LINK with video
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:54 pm to TideSaint
We got 3 more CBs for Stephon Wynn, including one from a Clemson mod.
He's a Clemson legacy.
He's a Clemson legacy.
Posted on 7/1/17 at 12:11 am to TideSaint
I'm done for the night.
Y'all feel free to post.
Y'all feel free to post.
Posted on 7/1/17 at 1:39 am to TideSaint
What would a commitment from Wynn put us up to in the 2018 rankings?
Posted on 7/1/17 at 3:25 am to TideSaint
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I think I'd rather land Cameron Latu over KJ Henry, but I think we would take both so it's a moot point. Latu could play OLB too.
I could certainly live with either. Agree.
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I don't think we need one. We've really gotten away from the big 330 pounds DTs over the last few years. Daron Payne is the exception, but there isn't a DT in this class as good as him anyway.
Yeah, I'm with you on the "no 330+ lbs types". But someone that could develop into somewhat of a Payne type (size-wise) or as close to it as possible in this class that can be over 300 and dominate in the very middle of the line. Maybe Brown, Tart-Spencer, or Miller could all eventually fill that spot, though. I don't know what their projections are weight-wise in a couple years.
This post was edited on 7/1/17 at 3:36 am
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:53 am to Bama3714
OSU insider at The Opening:
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BirmBirm Posts: 365 admin June 30 Really impressed by Luke Ford, looks like a real deal tight end.
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:58 am to Bamafan15
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What would a commitment from Wynn put us up to in the 2018 rankings?
Up to #51 nationally.
Posted on 7/1/17 at 11:33 am to Bamafan15
Chris Kirschner said Bama fans may want to tune in to Wynn's decision. In other words, he's ours.
Posted on 7/1/17 at 11:35 am to CapstoneGrad06
This twitter video gave me chills. It would be amazing running out on the field
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 11:39 am to Cobrasize
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