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re: Class of 2017 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: Say Your Goodbyes Edition

Posted on 8/4/16 at 9:50 am to
Posted by Bama3714
Alabama
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 9:50 am to
Some mods have mentioned that we'll be looking at Josh Jacobs quite a bit in Fall camp at returning kicks. This has me excited! He looks like the perfect kick returner to me. And already up to 217.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 9:53 am to
What a dumb way to do things. The rankings should be on the field ability and that's it. If the #4 guy doesn't qualify, it doesn't take away from his ability on the field
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 9:57 am to
Then you have 3 five stars going to a JUCO. They don't want that. Imagine having your top rated guy choosing between no name schools because no big schools would touch them.
Posted by Bama3714
Alabama
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 10:04 am to
One of the sites ranked Marcel Dareus as a 3* due to grades a few years ago. He was one of the most dominant HS DL in the history of the state of Alabama with elite measurables. A 5* by any standard. It's weird, but it happens. Thomas was a 5* until services caught wind of extreme grade issues. He's done nothing but dominate at camps, especially the first couple days of the Opening where it was said he was the most impressive receiver there and ran the fastest 40 at the entire event. I agree with you. Grades shouldn't have anything to do with individual player rankings.
Posted by Buckeye06
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 10:05 am to
But then the list isn't a list of the best 247 players, it's a list of who 247 has heard will likely qualify, and they want non-qualifiers to not be top 30 guys even if they are on the field.

It just seems like a dumb way of doing things. I get what you are saying and agree with it as well, if that makes sense
Posted by ApeDeuce
Funkytown
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 10:06 am to
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I agree with you. Grades shouldn't have anything to do with individual player rankings.


At the end of the day, the ratings are based on the kid's ability to contribute at the collegiate level. If the kid can't get into school, it has a pretty direct effect on his ability to contribute.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25139 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 10:22 am to
Fair enough.

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Ratings are determined by our recruiting analysts after countless hours of personal observations, film evaluation, and input from our network of scouts.


From 247 how they get ratings. This says nothing about school, but I guess that has to be included
This post was edited on 8/4/16 at 10:24 am
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 10:23 am to
I mean, 247 will only grant 32 5-stars in a class because there are 32 NFL first round picks.

Let's not give a kid a 5th star because he deserves it. Let's make sure we can only give out an arbitrary number of them.
Posted by South Alabama Tide
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 10:52 am to
Apparently Xavier McKinney is the new Alvin Kamara. He is anti bama on Twitter
Posted by ApeDeuce
Funkytown
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 10:53 am to
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Apparently Xavier McKinney is the new Alvin Kamara. He is anti bama on Twitter



I just wish fans wouldn't go back and forth with the kids. I can understand viewing the posts, but don't hit send...
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:05 am to
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Apparently Xavier McKinney is the new Alvin Kamara. He is anti bama on Twitter


Kamara actually stepped foot on campus. What the hell would McKinney know other than sunshine being pumped up his arse as a recruit?
Posted by South Alabama Tide
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:10 am to
I meant in terms of bashing
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83773 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:12 am to
I know what you meant.

I'm saying at least Kamara went through a season of being yelled at during practice, 2 a days, studying the playbook, etc.

McKinney has no reason to bash Alabama.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:27 am to
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Alabama is on the hunt for its seventh straight recruiting championship. Join us here on SEC Country for a daily recap of Alabama recruiting news, insight on what’s happening behind the scenes, and for a glimpse at what’s coming next.


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Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:27 am to
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Wade hasn’t set Alabama official visit just yet

Another recruiting website posted Wednesday that 5-star Ohio State cornerback commit Shaun Wade will take an official visit to Alabama this fall. His father, Randy, said that’s not the case just yet.

“It’s not 100 percent,” Randy Wade said. “He is trying to finalize it soon. It hasn’t been scheduled yet.”

Wade has three official visits set — Sept. 17 for the Michigan State-Notre Dame contest, Oct. 1 for the Wisconsin-Michigan game and Nov. 26 for the Michigan-Ohio State contest.

If he does finalize an Alabama official visit, it would be a good change of plans for the Crimson Tide. The nation’s No. 3 cornerback told SEC Country in recent interviews that he didn’t think an official visit to Tuscaloosa would happen because of how easy it is for him to visit the school whenever he wants.

Alabama is still prioritizing the Trinity Christian High School (Jacksonville, Fla.) standout even after the commitments of 4-star junior college cornerback Jhavonte Dean and 3-star defensive back Kyriq McDonald.

I have said for several months now that I believe Wade ultimately flips his commitment from Ohio State to Alabama. The majority of his family currently lives in the Montgomery area and his mother is a huge Tide fan. If he doesn’t go to Ohio State, he will go to Alabama. Forget all that other talk from him about other schools. It’s a two-school race.

Alabama is really the only other school in the country that can provide what Ohio State can (legendary coach at the helm, compete for championships every year and send multiple players to the league every draft). He can get the same things he can at Ohio State at Alabama, and the school happens to be close to family.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:27 am to
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Alabama still recruiting Ruiz hard?

Jeff Sentell, of DawgNation, was down in Bradenton, Fla., on Wednesday covering IMG Academy’s media day for us. He had a chance to catch up with the nation’s No. 1 center Cesar Ruiz, who told SEC Country at The Opening that Alabama was his leader.

“It’s a great school,” Ruiz said of Alabama. “They’re recruiting me really hard. They offered me a sophomore. They’ve recruited me hard ever since.”

Since The Opening, things have changed a bit. Alabama gained a commitment from 3-star offensive lineman Hunter Brannon. The Cullman (Ala.) High School prospect committed to the Crimson Tide two weeks ago after picking up an offer by dominating at Alabama’s OL-DL camp. The plan for Brannon is to play center. That’s obviously an issue for Ruiz who is considered strictly a center.

Alabama already has four offensive line commitments (Brannon, 5-star tackle Alex Leatherwood, nation’s No. 1 junior college offensive lineman Elliot Baker and 4-star offensive guard Kendall Randolph). The Crimson Tide are still in the mix for 4-star tackles Jedrick Wills, Isaiah Wilson and Trey Smith.

Wills is likely going to choose Alabama within the next two weeks. Wilson visited Tuscaloosa two weeks ago for multiple days, including the cookout, and Alabama is in good position for him as well. Smith is likely going to end up at Tennessee when he makes his commitment. His sister now works in the Volunteers’ recruiting office.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83773 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:30 am to
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Rice still waiting to hear from Alabama

Monty Rice, a 3-star linebacker from James Clemens High School (Madison, Ala.) is in a weird spot.

Kyriq McDonald, a 3-star defensive back from James Clemens, committed to Alabama on Sunday and their other teammate, 4-star defensive end LaBryan Ray, is a giant priority for the Crimson Tide. Rice isn’t a priority for Alabama at this time and doesn’t know where he stands with the Crimson Tide.

“That’s a good question for them (the staff),” Rice told SEC Country. “I know you probably have some inside connections, right? Because I don’t know where I stand.”

Alabama has three linebacker commitments in the Class of 2017: 4-stars VanDarius Cowan, Markail Benton and Gary Johnson. The Tide are in the mix for 4-stars Chris Allen, Jarez Parks and Jacob Phillips. All of those guys are ahead of Rice on the pecking order.

It’s clear Rice really likes Alabama, but he isn’t going to wait around and jeopardize his own recruitment if there isn’t space. Rice said Georgia currently leads for him, and he already has thoughts about joining a program that can possibly take down Alabama one day.

“I wouldn’t mind doing that,” Rice said. “Someone has to take down the champs, right? A lot of people just want to go with the champions and not many want to be with a program that’s building something that can take down the champs.”


Rice recently performed at Alabama’s camp for the staff, and he thinks his performance was impressive. Defensive coordinator Jeremy Pruitt told Rice that he was going to have a meeting with the staff, but the linebacker hasn’t heard anything yet.


shite. I know these kids get their feelings hurt sometimes, but someone close to Monty needs to sit him down and tell him to be patient. It's August. At this point during TJ Yeldon's recruitment he was headed to Auburn and we only liked him as a Safety. Fast forward through his Senior season and the rest is history.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83773 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:39 am to
We got another CB for LaBryan Ray.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83773 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:40 am to
The Vandy mod CB'd Jacob Phillips to Alabama.
Posted by Gongora
Member since Feb 2015
625 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:42 am to
Couldn't agree more. That is the stupidest part of the rankings. Was told by a mod before that they were trying to predict who would be 1st Rd draft picks. To me draft picks are determined by position and team needs more than best player. For a ranking of top HS players I want to see it based on college productivity projections. That might mean 50 5* or maybe 20 in a class depending on the talent each year. EOR

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an, 247 will only grant 32 5-stars in a class because there are 32 NFL first round
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