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re: Class of 2016 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: Waiting On Demetris Robertson Edition

Posted on 6/17/15 at 6:33 pm to
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 6/17/15 at 6:33 pm to
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Just what we need. Another running back who won't make the grades


That is what I don't get. Flowers apparently made the grades to graduate early and the NCAA cleared him. If they hadn't he would have spent another semester in high school taking courses and going above and beyond the entrance requirements to enroll during the summer.

Now they've waited so long to make this decision that he has to go to JUCO to get back on campus. What the frick NCAA?
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 6:34 pm
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 6/17/15 at 6:35 pm to
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No he is finally excelling in the secondary. No need to waste him at RB.



where does Averett fit in in the secondary? he's surrounded by five star underclassmen
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/17/15 at 6:39 pm to
It's pure and utter bullshite. How they prevented Calvin Ridley from enrolling early because of ACT score/grades, but couldn't catch Flowers situation until the summer is absolutely ridiculous. Not to mention, had we known this earlier, perhaps we could have pulled Nick Gibson away from Miss St.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/17/15 at 6:42 pm to
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It's pure and utter bullshite.


It's the game you play when you recruit these type of kids with very bad grades. You play it safe and you miss out on some real studs or you take a chance and sometimes it backfires.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83387 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 6:44 pm to
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It's the game you play when you recruit these type of kids with very bad grades.


That's just it. Flowers, by all accounts, didn't have bad grades which allowed him to graduate early. The NCAA probably passed some dumb shite bylaw in January, after he graduated, that disallowed a course he took in the 9th grade which made him ineligible.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/17/15 at 6:58 pm to
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He was a pretty damn good offensive player in high school. Yeah, he played QB for the most part, but so does Cam Akers.


Really didn't look like a guy you want at RB during A Day. Maybe lost a step since his injury. I think he would be a good H back maybe or LB.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:00 pm to
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That's just it. Flowers, by all accounts, didn't have bad grades which allowed him to graduate early. The NCAA probably passed some dumb shite bylaw in January, after he graduated, that disallowed a course he took in the 9th grade which made him ineligible.



This. I don't remember Desherrius ever being mentioned as a possible grade casualty by the recruiting sites. I just skimmed Flowers' profile on TSWSNBN, and grades wasn't mentioned once.

I can understand this happening with the photo finish qualifiers like Montel McBride or even Calvin Ridley. This happening to Flowers is puzzling.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:12 pm to
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where does Averett fit in in the secondary? he's surrounded by five star underclassmen


That means nothing. That's like saying we should've moved Amari Cooper because Chris Black was rated higher. Anyway didn't he win an award for one of the most improved DBs? Heck of an athlete too.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:20 pm to
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Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
13349 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:23 pm to
Its crazy. Im not positive but wasn't Chubb interested in us as well but we weren't interested?
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:24 pm to
I think so.

4000
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18090 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:27 pm to
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That's like saying we should've moved Amari Cooper because Chris Black was rated higher.


no, it's not like that at all. It's like taking Dakota Ball and moving him to TE because we are stacked at DL and have very few TEs.

C.Jones, Mo Smith, Humphrey, T.Brown are all ahead of Averett already, and only Jones is gone next year. Sheffield and Fitz are behind him and are expected to be studs.

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Heck of an athlete too


damn straight. he's got good vision and shiftiness. but he's got outstanding burst. played a lot of quarterback in high school too.

here are his HS highlights
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
13349 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:32 pm to
He is too small imo.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18090 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:45 pm to
he's listed 6'0 180. he wont be a bruiser but he could be a legit ballcarrier if he adds a little weight. his physicality is one of the things i like about him on defense
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21926 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:03 pm to
sounds like cook was maybe smoking the reefer, usually what off the field issues means

the mother seems reasonable about it
quote:

Cook's mother, Melissa Cook, said her son "just had some issues outside of the field." She said it was not a legal matter, but declined to explain the specifics. The dismissal was "somewhat surprising," she said. "It was a good school," Melissa Cook said. "They did what they're supposed to. It just didn't work out. These kids these days, they learn from their mistakes and they just have to move on."


although she does take a little shot here
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He's very talented. He just didn't get a chance to show his talents. There are a lot of kids who go to Alabama who don't get a chance. They sit two or three years and they don't get a chance to do it.


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This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 9:04 pm
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:05 pm to
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He's very talented. He just didn't get a chance to show his talents. There are a lot of kids who go to Alabama who don't get a chance. They sit two or three years and they don't get a chance to do it.


I don't get how this isn't true at every school. Is there a school where every recruit has equal playing time?
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:09 pm to
Devonta Smith got a CB to OM from Demetric Warren.
Posted by Bama3714
Alabama
Member since Feb 2015
5490 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:20 pm to
The WR that Bama really likes a lot for 2017 (other than the one from MS committed and Nico Collins) is Jerry Jeudy. Coaching staff thinks he could be another Julio/Amari/Ridley potentially. Will be interesting to see how he develops.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32657 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:25 pm to
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Julio/Amari/Ridley


How about we pump the brakes. Ridley hasn't played one second of college football. Coop and JJ are two of the best WRs in conference history.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83387 posts
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:28 pm to
Jeudy is in deep with the Ridley/Burgess-Becker family.
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