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re: CFB needs Bama to win
Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:40 pm to DeeBeepy
Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:40 pm to DeeBeepy
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And again, OSU's loss to Purdue will hurt them just as much this year as their loss to Iowa hurt last year. Close wins against a couple other BAD teams don't help their case either.
Do you not see the difference between them having 2 losses last year and only one this year?
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:42 pm to DeeBeepy
If they beat Texas and Army gets ranked like they are in the AP and coaches poll, they would have 4. Their situation is not in the slightest like OSU last year.
Again you couldn’t possibly know we are guaranteed in this year win or lose.
Again you couldn’t possibly know we are guaranteed in this year win or lose.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:43 pm to pvilleguru
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Do you not see the difference between them having 2 losses last year and only one this year?
Yes. Do you not see that Alabama and OSU/Oklahoma would both have 1 loss, and that Oklahoma's/OSU's loss would be worse than Alabama's loss? You are once again treating the conference championship as a playoff qualifier, and it's not. It wasn't a qualifier in the BCS system, and it's not a qualifier now.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:45 pm to DeeBeepy
And Oklahoma would have avenged that loss.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:47 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Again you couldn’t possibly know we are guaranteed in this year win or lose.
No, I can't possibly guarantee that Alabama is in whether they win or lose. I'm not part of the committee and I can't read their minds.
But when you look at the stats, the wins and losses, the absolute domination by Alabama ALL YEAR LONG, it's easy to see that Alabama is the better team.
Even if they lose to Georgia...if you don't think that Alabama is AT MINIMUM the 4th best team in the country...then you need a cat scan.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:48 pm to 1BamaRTR
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And Oklahoma would have avenged that loss.
Avenging a loss is a moral victory. It doesn't negate the fact that you lost to them earlier in the season. That loss doesn't suddenly get erased from the record books. It's still there.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:53 pm to DeeBeepy
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That loss doesn't suddenly get erased from the record books.
Sure but how do you the committee doesn’t feel they have proven themselves better since then? You don’t. You keep speaking with certainty that Bama is 100% in but you couldn’t possibly know that unless you had some inside info. Oklahoma definitely has a case for being in over Bama in this scenario as much as you don’t like it. And their case is nothing at all like OSU’s case last year.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 5:01 pm to 1BamaRTR
I don't say anything with a certainty. I'm stating my opinion.
Oklahoma's/OSU's only real grounds to get in over Bama would be the fact that they won their conference. And as I've said over and over, the conference championship is not a playoff qualifier. That's not my opinion. That's fact. You want to give the revenge win a lot more weight, or the fact that it's a conference championship a lot more weight, but I don't think it carries as much weight as you think it does (again, that's just my opinion).
If you treat their conference championship as just another game on the schedule against a ranked team, there is no comparison between Alabama and Oklahoma/Ohio State, for the reasons that I've already stated.
Alabama has had zero close games. They have a higher points per game average than both of those teams. They have a lower points allowed average than both of those teams. Their worst loss (if they even get one) would be against a higher ranked team than either of those other teams. Their best win would be against a higher ranked team than either of those teams. They are at the top or near the top of nearly every single statistical category on offense and defense, with their only weak spot being special teams. Even in their wins, Oklahoma and Ohio State have given up TONS of points against BAD teams. Alabama hasn't done that.
Is Alabama guaranteed to be in the playoff if they lose to Georgia? Of course not. I can't make that guarantee.
What I'm saying is, the committee's objective is to get the four best teams, not the four best conference champs. If you look at how the teams have performed all season long, Alabama is CLEARLY the better team, and that's not my biased opinion, that can be easily backed up with stats. Unless Alabama gets absolutely creamed by Georgia, that is not going to change.
Also, like someone else has already said, all this is kind of a pointless argument, because I expect Alabama to beat Georgia, most likely by two touchdowns or more.
Oklahoma's/OSU's only real grounds to get in over Bama would be the fact that they won their conference. And as I've said over and over, the conference championship is not a playoff qualifier. That's not my opinion. That's fact. You want to give the revenge win a lot more weight, or the fact that it's a conference championship a lot more weight, but I don't think it carries as much weight as you think it does (again, that's just my opinion).
If you treat their conference championship as just another game on the schedule against a ranked team, there is no comparison between Alabama and Oklahoma/Ohio State, for the reasons that I've already stated.
Alabama has had zero close games. They have a higher points per game average than both of those teams. They have a lower points allowed average than both of those teams. Their worst loss (if they even get one) would be against a higher ranked team than either of those other teams. Their best win would be against a higher ranked team than either of those teams. They are at the top or near the top of nearly every single statistical category on offense and defense, with their only weak spot being special teams. Even in their wins, Oklahoma and Ohio State have given up TONS of points against BAD teams. Alabama hasn't done that.
Is Alabama guaranteed to be in the playoff if they lose to Georgia? Of course not. I can't make that guarantee.
What I'm saying is, the committee's objective is to get the four best teams, not the four best conference champs. If you look at how the teams have performed all season long, Alabama is CLEARLY the better team, and that's not my biased opinion, that can be easily backed up with stats. Unless Alabama gets absolutely creamed by Georgia, that is not going to change.
Also, like someone else has already said, all this is kind of a pointless argument, because I expect Alabama to beat Georgia, most likely by two touchdowns or more.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 11/27/18 at 5:11 pm to DeeBeepy
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Do you not see that Alabama and OSU/Oklahoma would both have 1 loss, and that Oklahoma's/OSU's loss would be worse than Alabama's loss? You are once again treating the conference championship as a playoff qualifier, and it's not.
No, I'm fricking not. However, it would be a glaring omission from our resume that both OU and OSU would have, and all 3 teams would be 12-1.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 5:28 pm to remaster916
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Wouldn't be too easy to leave out the team that just had the most dominant regular season in the history of college football while playing in the toughest conference in the country.
Have you talked CFB outside of Alabama lately???
Bama-fatigue is palpable and pervasive. Fans, coaches, and pundits from coast to coast--everyone outside our fanbase--covets our demise.
The CFB PSC is salivating at the soupçon of a pretext to slam the door on us.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:00 pm to DeeBeepy
It seems a lot of the posters on here, especially the ones that try to sound smart , have a problem understanding that if we lose we are still in.
I’ve NEVER been more right about something. But let’s win lol
I’ve NEVER been more right about something. But let’s win lol
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:28 pm to LukeSidewalker
There’s no way that anyone can say with a straight face that Bama isn’t one of the 4 best teams in the country. Win or lose Saturday will not make a difference.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:29 pm to LukeSidewalker
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It seems a lot of the posters on here, especially the ones that try to sound smart , have a problem understanding that if we lose we are still in.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:33 pm to LukeSidewalker
BTW I agree that we SHOULD be in. We are definitely one of the top 4 teams in the country. but I don’t think they’ll put us in over other 1 loss conference champions.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:36 pm to LukeSidewalker
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It seems a lot of the posters on here, especially the ones that try to sound smart , have a problem understanding that if we lose we are still in.
Holy frick, you people.Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:49 pm to pvilleguru
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Holy frick, you people
What you mean “you” people
Lol
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:51 pm to YStar
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Playoffs are about the best four teams, not some moronic agenda to placate lesser teams from lesser time zones.
Oh you are one of those angry people who instantly insult those you disagree with.
I want Bama to win but I also want cfb to remain a fun, healthy, thriving sport. I couldnt ever root against Alabama...but I could be ok with other teams located outside of the SEC catching some breaks. Alabama has gotten several benefits of the doubt at the expense of other teams.
Obviously, it would be better if Bama won and we had better representation in the playoffs. Id rather see Bama play OU or ND rather than a rematch with Georgia.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:53 pm to pvilleguru
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With a loss to UGA, our 2 best wins are against a 9-3 LSU and 8-4 MSU. Not much to write home about.
Oklahoma's best wins are against 8-3 WVU and 7-5 ISU.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:54 pm to LukeSidewalker
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It seems a lot of the posters on here, especially the ones that try to sound smart , have a problem understanding that if we lose we are still in.
Bama will still be in if they lose. Id rather they not lose
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:54 pm to DeeBeepy
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With a loss to UGA, our 2 best wins are against a 9-3 LSU and 8-4 MSU. Not much to write home about.
What wins does Ohio State or Oklahoma have that are better?
Not to mention the fact that Oklahoma has by far the ugliest loss, and history has proven that ugly losses are very significant.
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