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re: Ale Kaho looks to have retired from football
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:25 am to stomp
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:25 am to stomp
The good news is the 2019 class looks more like a typical Saban class than 2018 did. Lot of guys from the deep south that were top 10-15 in their states, and actually LOOK like grown men. Compare 2019 to 2018 and 2008-2012 classes.
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When I look at a class, I'm looking more at size, production, location more than star count. State rank matters too because a top 10 kid in Georgia or Louisiana is likely gonna fare better than a top 5 kid from Utah/Nevada (there are some exceptions)
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When I look at a class, I'm looking more at size, production, location more than star count. State rank matters too because a top 10 kid in Georgia or Louisiana is likely gonna fare better than a top 5 kid from Utah/Nevada (there are some exceptions)
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 3:29 am
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 6:56 am to stomp
So you assume Nick Saban can take any recruit he wants and from any college? Yeah right.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 7:08 am to stomp
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Why did they choose elsewhere?
Well, seeing as the top ILBs in the Class of 2018 weren't from the Southeast they mostly stayed in their respective parts of the country.
2018 ILB Rankings
1. Palaie Gaoteote (Las Vegas) - USC
2. Teradja Mitchell (Virginia Beach) - Ohio State
3. Solomon Tuliaupupu (Santa Ana, CA) - USC
4. Jack Lamb (Temecula, CA) - Notre Dame
5. Channing Tindall (Columbia, SC) - Georgia
6. Ayodele Adeoye (St. Louis) - Texas
7. Brandon Kaho
Who did you want us to sign over Kaho?
ETA: The highest ranked ILB from the state of Alabama in the class of 2018 was Jamall Hickbottom. He was the #88 ILB in the country and signed with South Alabama.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 7:12 am
Posted on 5/20/19 at 7:28 am to TideSaint
Nice research Saint!
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:35 pm to Bamafan18
Well since it appears he never actually committed to it @ Alabama I guess he just sorta passed through. We missed on inside linebackers and wound up just sorta taking a shot at longshots last year. The whole year was strange. And it will show up @ some point.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 4:03 pm to jimdog
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Well since it appears he never actually committed to it @ Alabama I guess he just sorta passed through. We missed on inside linebackers and wound up just sorta taking a shot at longshots last year. The whole year was strange. And it will show up @ some point.
It already has. Hopefully we're past the worst of it.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 4:10 pm to jimdog
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We missed on inside linebackers and wound up just sorta taking a shot at longshots last year. ... And it will show up @ some point.
No, this is not a fact. A team like Alabama can go an entire recruiting class without taking an ILB and be fine long-term. There are only 2 spots - Mike and Will. It's not like the Oline where you gotta take 4 or 5 guys each and every recruiting class.
Each year, needs must be filled, but they can be filled via high school recruiting, juco transfers, or transfer portal guys. It's easy to get the guys. And since ILB is only 2 positions, you can take care of the position for a 2-3 year span by recruiting only 2 players, which gives you time to recruit more ILBs.
Regarding Alabama's current depth chart, our entire 3-deep is nothing but 4- and 5-stars, with the 1 exception being Jalen Moody, a 3-star. Most schools across the country would kill for that depth chart. Could it be better? Sure. But it's far from chopped liver.
The point is that 1 recruiting class short on ILBs does not definitely mean that there will be a year in the near future where your ILB play will be bad. Hell, if you had 2 young studs who remained uninjured, you could go 2 recruiting classes and it still be fine. It'd be stupid, but technically possible.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 5:13 pm to prevatt33
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No, this is not a fact. A team like Alabama can go an entire recruiting class without taking an ILB and be fine long-term. There are only 2 spots - Mike and Will. It's not like the Oline where you gotta take 4 or 5 guys each and every recruiting class.
Each year, needs must be filled, but they can be filled via high school recruiting, juco transfers, or transfer portal guys. It's easy to get the guys. And since ILB is only 2 positions, you can take care of the position for a 2-3 year span by recruiting only 2 players, which gives you time to recruit more ILBs.
Regarding Alabama's current depth chart, our entire 3-deep is nothing but 4- and 5-stars, with the 1 exception being Jalen Moody, a 3-star. Most schools across the country would kill for that depth chart. Could it be better? Sure. But it's far from chopped liver.
The point is that 1 recruiting class short on ILBs does not definitely mean that there will be a year in the near future where your ILB play will be bad. Hell, if you had 2 young studs who remained uninjured, you could go 2 recruiting classes and it still be fine. It'd be stupid, but technically possible.
1. Define "be fine long term" ... because I recall needing a miracle from a certain QB to beat Mississippi State a couple years ago due to issues at ILB. You will get beat with glaring holes at those positions.
2. STOP WITH THE 4 AND 5 STAR rhetoric. Those are LOOSE PROJECTIONS based on what a kid did in HS. There are plenty of 4 and 5 stars that never live up to their expectations. Especially Front 7 players from outside of the southeast. Ben Davis was a 5 star and hasn't taken one meaningful snap in 3 years. STOP STOP STOP.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 5/20/19 at 5:30 pm to stomp
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1. Define "be fine long term" ... because I recall needing a miracle from a certain QB to beat Mississippi State a couple years ago due to issues at ILB. You will get beat with glaring holes at those positions.
All I'm saying is that one bad recruiting class at ILB can be completely negated by one good recruiting class at the same position the following year. Nothing more. It depends on your ILB depth before, during, and after.
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Those are LOOSE PROJECTIONS based on what a kid did in HS.
I totally agree, but it's all we've got to go on from a fan's perspective. I'm saying that I believe that you are insinuating that our current ILB depth chart (3 deep) is low on talent, and I'm saying that you have no way of knowing that without watching nearly every practice and without being in every ILB meeting room. And any low ILB numbers can be immediately remedied with the next recruiting class.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 5:32 pm to prevatt33
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All I'm saying is that one bad recruiting class at ILB can be completely negated by one good recruiting class at the same position the following year.
It was not just one bad position class. And when its more than one, it takes multiple years to recover due to the time it takes another class to develop.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:16 pm to stomp
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It was not just one bad position class. And when its more than one, it takes multiple years to recover due to the time it takes another class to develop.
I don't think our ILB recruiting has been as bad as you claim, and I also don't think it takes as much time to fix it as you claim. You just have to get a few studs - end problem.
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