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re: Alabama Hires Patriots' TE Brian Daboll as Offensive Coordinator
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:37 am to Goombaw
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:37 am to Goombaw
I definitely like Daboll over Godsey. It still scares me that he has never had a really successful season as a coordinator, but the fact that he is clearly McDaniels successor in New England does carry a bit of weight, as do the glowing endorsements from basically everyone in the NFL who has worked with him.
I like the spread concepts as well.
I like the spread concepts as well.
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:42 am to TidalSurge1
Ok, if it's between those two, I think the pertinent questions are who is better at recruiting and who is better at developing QBs. Godsey has college experience at Penn State with O'Brien who did a helluva job turning that program around. How big of a role did Godsey play? Dabol seems to be more of an unknown at the college level.
Gilbert is still my favorite candidate but I guess I could live with either of these guys if Saban signs off on them.
Gilbert is still my favorite candidate but I guess I could live with either of these guys if Saban signs off on them.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:45 am to phil4bama
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Godsey has college experience at Penn State with O'Brien who did a helluva job turning that program around. How big of a role did Godsey play? Dabol seems to be more of an unknown at the college level.
Godsey never coached at Penn State. He was at UCF from 2004-2010. QB coach from 2005-2008 and RB coach from 2009-2010. He linked up with the Patriots tree in 2011 when he went to New England.
At this point I don't even really care if the OC recruits at all. And it sounds like one of Dabol's strengths is talent evaluation, so if he can just evaluate then that's fine by me. Work on player development and scheme.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 8:46 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:51 am to Triple Daves
Do not like either of these at all. Will have to choose Godsey. Daboll will be gone next yr. Tom Brady is gonna have that offense humming next yr, josh McDaniels is gone. Hell the NFL fires 5 to 8 coaches every yr.
Daboll installs a complex system and he bolts is not going to work. At the end of the days we are dealing with kids, and its unfair to them to learn a new system every year.
If it happens by bad luck like wit sark, then fine. If you know a guy is being groomed to replace another guy, then avoid him at all costs.
Daboll installs a complex system and he bolts is not going to work. At the end of the days we are dealing with kids, and its unfair to them to learn a new system every year.
If it happens by bad luck like wit sark, then fine. If you know a guy is being groomed to replace another guy, then avoid him at all costs.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:54 am to Bamadoc
Yea, I do agree with that line of thinking as well. Obviously assistants come and go, that's part of being a great program, but we can't keep changing OCs every season.
However, I'm pretty anti-Godsey at this point. The only "positives" I've seen about him are "yea well the Texans players sucked". Nothing raving about his abilities, nobody on the record talking about what a great mind he is, etc. Maybe I'm just missing them, but I don't want him at all.
However, I'm pretty anti-Godsey at this point. The only "positives" I've seen about him are "yea well the Texans players sucked". Nothing raving about his abilities, nobody on the record talking about what a great mind he is, etc. Maybe I'm just missing them, but I don't want him at all.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 9:18 am to Bamadoc
The only person that can change Alabama's offensive philosophy/basic scheme is Saban. As Cecil alluded to in his last column, Saban will decide the direction the team will take, and then select the appropriate man for the job.
Ask yourself this question...if you could name the person to pick the new OC, would you pick someone other than Saban to do it?
Ask yourself this question...if you could name the person to pick the new OC, would you pick someone other than Saban to do it?
Posted on 2/13/17 at 9:47 am to coachcrisp
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Ask yourself this question...if you could name the person to pick the new OC, would you pick someone other than Saban to do it?
Probably.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 9:48 am to coachcrisp
Like I said on a previous post, this is what nick is good at. When you say basic scheme, Nicks vision, this is his philosophy it has nothing to do with learning playbook,terminology. Nick will have his direction, but the kids will have to learn most of the playbook, aND utilize it in a rapid pace environment. It also limits the OC playcalling wise, because he will have to use baby steps in order for them to get it in the season.
The old days of the opposition will know what we are doing, and challenge them to stop us will eventually bite u in the butt.
Nick understands that and realizes he needs to get a good playcaller, QB whisperer of you will.
Edit. We all maybe on the same page. My biggest concern is we have fairly young offense, and I just am against a one and done OC. If we can help it
The old days of the opposition will know what we are doing, and challenge them to stop us will eventually bite u in the butt.
Nick understands that and realizes he needs to get a good playcaller, QB whisperer of you will.
Edit. We all maybe on the same page. My biggest concern is we have fairly young offense, and I just am against a one and done OC. If we can help it
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 9:51 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 9:51 am to MagillaGuerilla
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Probably.
I'm leaning towards........
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:09 am to Bamadoc
quote:I can appreciate your concern, but I doubt that there's anyone that knows this better than Saban. Also, I find it humorous that there are folks around here who think that the man who built this dynasty from the ground up, now can't be trusted to select his staff
Edit. We all maybe on the same page. My biggest concern is we have fairly young offense, and I just am against a one and done OC. If we can help it
It's great fun to speculate over candidates, but to be negative about Saban's possible choices, IMO doesn't show much perspective...or maturity.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:12 am to coachcrisp
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It's great fun to speculate over candidates, but to be negative about Saban's possible choices, IMO doesn't show much perspective...or maturity.
Meh, it's part of being a fan. He is also a man, and a man who is not immune to making bad personnel decisions. He's very good at it, but he's not perfect.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:21 am to Triple Daves
quote:I doubt that you're gonna get Jesus to weigh-in on the topic, so until then I'd be sticking with the one that built it.
Meh, it's part of being a fan. He is also a man, and a man who is not immune to making bad personnel decisions. He's very good at it, but he's not perfect.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:22 am to coachcrisp
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I doubt that you're gonna get Jesus to weigh-in on the topic, so until then I'd be sticking with the one that built it.
I think you can question certain things and still have faith in the man and the system. I don't think it requires full faith all the time no matter the situation that everything is perfect.
Not to mention, I'm not even really questioning it. There isn't anything to question yet. Once the hire is made then we'll get to all that.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 10:23 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:22 am to coachcrisp
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t's great fun to speculate over candidates, but to be negative about Saban's possible choices, IMO doesn't show much perspective...or maturity.
You don't have to be happy with every decision that Saban makes. People have opinions and they are free to share them. I respect people that speak their mind and opinions much more than folks that blindly follow.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:26 am to Cobrasize
Yea - I mean I haven't loved all his hires (some I was right on, some I was wrong), but I've also really liked some of the ones a lot of people hated.
I loved the Kiffin hire. Loved it.
I loved the Kiffin hire. Loved it.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 10:27 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:28 am to Triple Daves
The Greg Brown hire sucked 
and Major Applewhite was a flop as well.
and Major Applewhite was a flop as well.Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:29 am to coachcrisp
believe me when I say concern in the football sense is not concern meant in life. Again I have said and will say, this is what nicks good at, so I am good with his choice.
Edit. Crisp, you are aware that no one on this board is worried about this, don't you?
Because I don't give a hoot, but I enjoy bantering away with my bama brethren on this board. It's solely for entertainment value only.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 10:32 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:29 am to Cobrasize
I just don't feel the need to change opinions on a coach just because Saban has interest in hiring them.
Can't buy into them being "the best coaches available" quote by Saban because they aren't...
Can't buy into them being "the best coaches available" quote by Saban because they aren't...
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:36 am to Triple Daves
quote:I wasn't actually referring to you, Dave. This thread seems to have taken on a negative tenor and the people mentioned by the rumor mill have been harshly scrutinized on the board. To me, it seems somewhat inappropriate..that's all.
I think you can question certain things and still have faith in the man and the system. I don't think it requires full faith all the time no matter the situation that everything is perfect.
Not to mention, I'm not even really questioning it. There isn't anything to question yet. Once the hire is made then we'll get to all that.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:38 am to coachcrisp
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I wasn't actually referring to you, Dave. This thread seems to have taken on a negative tenor and the people mentioned by the rumor mill have been harshly scrutinized on the board. To me, it seems somewhat inappropriate..that's all.
No problem - yea I get it.
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