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Posted on 7/21/20 at 6:24 pm to JustGetItRight
Posted on 7/21/20 at 6:24 pm to JustGetItRight
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No, it isn't. Cases of domestic violence always increase in times of national stress - particularly economic stress.
The issue is not that these things aren't happening.
The fallacy is the illogical argument that they could have been avoided by not taking measures to fight the spread of the virus.
Is Florida really "less stressful" right now than NY because they've only employed a fraction of the measures to stop the spread?
We would be dealing with the "stress" of economic problems, people staying at home, not seeing loved ones, worry about the future ect regardless! It's the virus causing it.
The solution isn't who can open everything back up faster but who can open everything back up faster while also avoiding surges of infections that just make it worse.
A better argument could be made that we'd be dealing with less overall tangential stress and effects if our current infection rates and re-opening success looked more like Germany's (where they employed much more direct, organized and stringent plans) and less like Brazil's, where they tried business as usual for months.
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 9:54 pm
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 6:27 pm to wm72
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The fallacy is the illogical argument that they could have been avoided by not taking measures to fight the spread of the virus.
That was my point
Posted on 7/21/20 at 6:52 pm to Bear88
On a lighter note I am glad to see different businesses provide curbside service. Not sure how this one works but at least they are doing what they can. 
Posted on 7/21/20 at 6:55 pm to TideWarrior
That is funny
Posted on 7/21/20 at 7:08 pm to Bear88
I maybe should have said on a heavier note.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 7:09 pm to TideWarrior
Curbside service would be a hell of a time
Posted on 7/21/20 at 7:12 pm to Cobrasize
Looks like a gentlemen’s club anyway
Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:07 pm to Bear88
Count on Americans to be innovative. I do wonder exactly how it works.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:47 pm to rcbama
C’mon dude, you drive up, park, roll down your window, get a handy through the window curbside, voila’-curbside service!
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:56 am to Cobrasize
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The coronavirus will be around for decades, Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) member Jeremy Farrar told British MPs on Tuesday, contradicting British Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s insistence that the nation will return to normalcy by Christmas, Politico reported.
“Things will not be done by Christmas," Farrar, who also is director of the Wellcome Trust, told the House of Commons health and social care committee. “Even actually if we have a vaccine or a very good treatment, humanity will still be living with the virus for many, many years to come.”
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Another expert, John Bell, Oxford University’s regius professor of medicine, was even more adamant in his remarks, saying that the “reality is that this virus will be with us forever. It is going to come and go.”
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 6:53 am to wm72
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The fallacy is the illogical argument that they could have been avoided by not taking measures to fight the spread of the virus.
The stress would still be there for sure. My point was to reply to what I took as Bear saying there was no relationship between the two.
I do still think places like Alabama kick started the stress by locking down too much too soon.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:29 am to Cobrasize
They're probably right unless one of the vaccines currently in development can prompt a permanent antibody response to COVID, which is obviously something that can't be known for some time. There have been studies that indicate antibodies are no longer present in sufficient quantities to fight off infection only a few months after an initial infection. However, stories of people becoming re-infected seem to be pretty uncommon. So it could just end up being like the flu, except you need to get a COVID shot in May and November instead of just November.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:00 am to Robot Santa
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So it could just end up being like the flu, except you need to get a COVID shot in May and November instead of just November.
Great. One thing Americans are diligent about is getting a flu shot every year.
*sarcasm*
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:39 am to The Spleen
May already have been posted, but people in Florida are being told they were covid positive despite never having been tested.
I'm sure the story is right about how it is happening - but this isn't getting the McNugget combo that's supposed to go to the guy behind you. They're getting told they were positive, so people who actually ARE positive are getting told they're free to go spread all the Rona they want.
Even Chic-Fil-A asks your name before they hand you the meal.
I'm sure the story is right about how it is happening - but this isn't getting the McNugget combo that's supposed to go to the guy behind you. They're getting told they were positive, so people who actually ARE positive are getting told they're free to go spread all the Rona they want.
Even Chic-Fil-A asks your name before they hand you the meal.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:39 am to The Spleen
Only a little under half of Americans do get a flu shot. That's not great, but it's also generally enough to prevent large scale outbreaks. At this point I think management of outbreaks is the only realistic option. I doubt we can ever eradicate it completely.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:34 am to Cobrasize
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Another expert, John Bell, Oxford University’s regius professor of medicine, was even more adamant in his remarks, saying that the “reality is that this virus will be with us forever. It is going to come and go.”
Seems clear it won't just go away but doesn't there also seem a good chance that passing time will continually see it mutate into less dangerous manifestations?
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 11:55 am
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:29 pm to wm72
Hope this is true but I remember when it would go away with hot weather.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:28 pm to JustGetItRight
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May already have been posted, but people in Florida are being told they were covid positive despite never having been tested. . .
They're getting told they were positive, so people who actually ARE positive are getting told they're free to go spread all the Rona they want.
People wonder why contact tracing works in Germany and Japan but not here when our health care system seems to have trouble even keeping track of the actual person who tested positive.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 8:47 am to phil4bama
Thankful I work for a company that is taking this seriously and requiring anyone entering our building to wear a mask. I had to visit a client yesterday and my boss made sure I understood our mask policy carried over to clients' offices. I was the only person in that office wearing a mask yesterday.
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