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Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:34 pm to phil4bama
Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:34 pm to phil4bama
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George, according to the news report I heard, several hospitals down south have already hit 100% critical care capacity. Maybe it's just a Miami area thing.
Wow - yea that would definitely be a problem. It could be regionalized, especially in a state like Florida.
All in all it is just a matter of time if cases keep rising that hospitalizations and deaths will too. We can do as good a job as possible of separating those who generally have no issues with the disease from those who die from it, but at some point we won't be able to stop it.
Frustrating - because there are very simple sacrifices that everyone can make to snuff this thing out (mask, distance, avoiding certain types of activities in specific spaces)..........and people just don't want to do any of it. Like someone said above, the initial response and the finger wagging at people for not falling in lock stock and barrel has created an overreaction the other way.
And as already noted, there is zero chance that the public will lock things back down in any capacity. That is not going to be an option.
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:44 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Doubt governors will want to do it but the public won’t have much choice if it is ordered ? 
Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:46 pm to Bear88
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Doubt governors will want to do it but the public won’t have much choice if it is ordered ?
I think we've seen in recent weeks that if the public believes strongly enough in civil disobedience that the authorities are faced with a difficult decision in if and how to enforce rules.
And people would DEFINITELY disobey if that was to happen, IMHO.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:48 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Well responsible business owners are a little more easy to deal with than. ANTIFA and “peaceful protesters” 
Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:50 pm to Bear88
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Well responsible business owners are a little more easy to deal with than. ANTIFA and “peaceful protesters”
LOL, good point, but how much more reasonable are those business owners who only escaped shutting down by the skin of their teeth last time going to be when they get told to do it again?
Throw in the angle of people feeling like the whole thing is ripe with hypocrisy on who gets a free pass, and attempting to shut people down just isn't gonna fly IMHO. It will be met with heavy resistence.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:54 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You probably right .
Just going by wording in teacher contracts this time and different “plans” for the next school year , I feel like governments are at least planning for a possible shutdown
Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:11 pm to Bear88
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Just going by wording in teacher contracts this time and different “plans” for the next school year , I feel like governments are at least planning for a possible shutdown
They are absolutely planning for some version of it. I think most of them are smart enough to understand they'll have to be much more careful than last time in terms of blanket decisions (and I'm not even saying last time was wrong, they were shooting from the hip trying their best).
It will be interesting to see how it goes. People just decided that they're done with the virus aren't helping matters much and are making governmental mandates much more likely. Sigh.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:17 pm to Bear88
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Well responsible business owners are a little more easy to deal with than. ANTIFA and “peaceful protesters”
They were before they saw how much ANTIFA and "peaceful protestors" were allowed to get away with. They won't be so willing to cooperate this time.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:19 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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They are absolutely planning for some version of it. I think most of them are smart enough to understand they'll have to be much more careful than last time in terms of blanket decisions (and I'm not even saying last time was wrong, they were shooting from the hip trying their best).
I literally just finished listening to a message from our local superintendent.
They're planning on opening but giving parents that are uncomfortable a 100% virtual option. All kids will have a chromebook and even those opting for the in-class will be expected to 'work from home' if they are the slightest bit ill.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Most states definitely will not shut down.
That is the past. Will not happen again.
That is the past. Will not happen again.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:00 pm to Crimsonians
Typical of Alabama politics
Just ignore it. Maybe it will go away
Alabama state government silent as coronavirus cases spike
Just ignore it. Maybe it will go away
Alabama state government silent as coronavirus cases spike
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:05 pm to Crimsonians
There might be some level of shutdown but I highly doubt it will be anything like last time. Even more people aren’t going to listen this time around
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:08 pm to BLG
And they should keep opening up. Florida the same.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:12 pm to 1BamaRTR
Clemson had 28 members of their organization, 23 players, just test positive for COVID-19.
This was their second round of testing, too, so all of these players got the virus or had it manifest itself while on campus - they didn't bring it back with them.
This was their second round of testing, too, so all of these players got the virus or had it manifest itself while on campus - they didn't bring it back with them.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
People still worry about cases. That is not a problem, but fear will get them.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:19 pm to Crimsonians
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People still worry about cases. That is not a problem, but fear will get them.
The Clemson thing doesn't have anything to do with worry. It has to do with how it will affect football. And it will GREATLY affect football.
But yea, in general, cases don't matter nearly as much as Hospitalizations and/or Deaths........but if they are rising at a rapid rate over multiple weeks along with hospitalizations.....it's a problem.
This post was edited on 6/19/20 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:22 pm to SummerOfGeorge
There is no rapid rate. Why do people forget when things opened up they said there would be pockets of spikes and they would deal with them. Guess what? It was expected, predicted, and deaths have not gone up since opening.
This post was edited on 6/19/20 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:24 pm to Crimsonians
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There is no rapid rate.
There certainly is in Texas and Arizona right now.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:24 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Read post above
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:31 pm to Crimsonians
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Read post above
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Why do people forget when things opened up they said there would be pockets of spikes and they would deal with them. Guess what? It was expected, predicted, and deaths have not gone up since opening.
Arizona's deaths have gone up and their hospitalizations have exponentially gone up. They are at 85%+ bed capacity across the state.
I mean it is what it is, I'm not really arguing they should be doing anything drastic about it.
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