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re: Alabama Basketball Recruiting and Offseason Talk

Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:15 pm to
Posted by Bamafan15
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:15 pm to
Dmitry Rivny visited Alabama today and received an offer
Posted by CrimsonTider98
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:17 pm to
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What are you talking about? The program was so damaged that in the 3 years after Grant, Bama has made 2 NITs and a NCAAT appearance. Can Auburn sign up for some of that program ruining? That's more postseason appearances than AU has made in 15 years

So what? Alabama and Auburn have different standards historically. Just admit you were wrong to call Grant "Average." By, the historical standards of Alabama basketball he was well below average.
Posted by A-TOWNUAFAN
Alabama
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:36 pm to
Also could reclassify
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 6:59 pm to
Nice. Tall guys that can shoot are always a plus.
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 7:02 pm to
There seems to be a lot of confusion on twitter right now about whether Dmitry Rivny is class of 2018 or class of 2019. His twitter says he’s a senior in high school and there’s a ton of tweets saying he’s class of 2018. But Cecil Hurt is saying he’s 2019 with a chance at reclassifying to 2018. I directly asked his AAU team on twitter and they said he’s 2018. So he may sign and be eligible this season. We’ll see

Edit: Dmitry just confirmed on twitter that he’s class of 2018
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 7:18 pm
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 7:20 pm to
Have any other schools offered? You'd think if he wants to come to Bama, it wouldn't take him long to jump on this offer.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 7:24 pm to
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So what? Alabama and Auburn have different standards historically.


Ya, so if AU can recover from tGOAT program tanker Tony Barbee, Bama wasn't close to being destroyed by Grant.



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Just admit you were wrong to call Grant "Average."


I said he was mediocre, which is exactly what Grant was/is. Mediocre doesn't cut it at Bama, but it doesn't destroy a program
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37821 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 7:25 pm to
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Dmitry just confirmed on twitter that he’s class of 2018


A lot of times there is trouble wwith eligibility for foreign players. Hard for the NCAA to certify the academic records meet qualification standards

Posted by CrimsonTider98
Member since Nov 2017
809 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 7:48 pm to
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Ya, so if AU can recover from tGOAT program tanker Tony Barbee, Bama wasn't close to being destroyed by Grant.


I don't know that I'd say that Grant is better than Barbee. It's close and we can certainly argue over who was worse. Zero NCAAT wins in six years is horrible for a program like Alabama. Grant was definitely awful. Regardless, he's Dayton's problem now. I still can't believe they hired him, but whatever.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 7:49 pm to
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Cecil Hurt is saying he’s 2019 with a chance at reclassifying to 2018. I directly asked his AAU team on twitter and they said he’s 2018.


Bamafan with hard-hitting journalism
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 7:51 pm to
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Bamafan with hard-hitting journalism

Ehhh, he's slacking until he produces a twitter video of the guy hitting 3's
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 7:52 pm
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13163 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:13 pm to
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Have any other schools offered? You'd think if he wants to come to Bama, it wouldn't take him long to jump on this offer.


No one else has offered yet. I hope he signs soon. That 20 second clip someone posted of him was impressive and over 20 ppg this past weekend is even more so.

His actual name is Ryuny I think, but somehow that's pronounced Rivny.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 8:14 pm
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:54 pm to
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That 20 second clip someone posted of him was impressive and over 20 ppg this past weekend is even more so.


I did a little more searching on YouTube, and came up with this 8 minute video of him overseas from his junior (or whatever they call it) year. He's got pretty good coordination and handles the ball very well for a 6'8 guy. I'm pretty impressed with him.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 8:56 pm
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37821 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:01 pm to
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I don't know that I'd say that Grant is better than Barbee. It's close and we can certainly argue over who was worse.


I actually don't know how to respond to this. It is so stupid, it is actually making me angry.

Seriously, given an area where you think Grant is worse than Barbee. I will literally give examples about how Barbee wasn't just worse, but innovated in the field of shitty coaching

Win%, production, development, recruiting, financial, academic, donor relations, program management

Pick a category, give your pitch on Grant and then be amazed by Tony Barbee
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25267 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:07 pm to
It's a never ending argument with him. I've had it multiple times. That Grant vitriol from him is asinine but he's consistent.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:09 pm to
I can't stand Grant, but he was a better coach than Barbee
Posted by CrimsonTider98
Member since Nov 2017
809 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:12 pm to
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I actually don't know how to respond to this. It is so stupid, it is actually making me angry. Seriously, given an area where you think Grant is worse than Barbee. I will literally give examples about how Barbee wasn't just worse, but innovated in the field of shitty coaching Win%, production, development, recruiting, financial, academic, donor relations, program management Pick a category, give your pitch on Grant and then be amazed by Tony Barbee


Auburn is historically one of the three worst programs in the SEC. Alabama is historically one of the three best. Grant was about as below par at Alabama as Barbee was at Auburn.

Look, I've been watching Alabama basketball for a long time, but I can tell by the fact that you think Grant's zero tourney wins, 3 wins against top 25 teams, and 8 wins against top 50 teams is "average," for Alabama basketball, that you haven't. I assume you also thought Mike Dubose was "average."
Posted by CrimsonTider98
Member since Nov 2017
809 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:13 pm to
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It's a never ending argument with him. I've had it multiple times. That Grant vitriol from him is asinine but he's consistent.

How so? Grant was terrible. The fact that people on this board still defend him is what's asinine.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37821 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:15 pm to
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That Grant vitriol from him is asinine but he's consistent.



Even if you concede Grant being terrible, to say that Grant < Barbee is just clueless. Barbee was so bad at every aspect of coaching, it is honestly impressive.

As in, even basic incompetence doesn't explain it.

Barbee Facts

- AU Career losing% leader (post WWII). He is literally the worst coach in one of the worst SEC programs. That's hard to do

- Drove off multiple talented players

- Cancelled practices to go golfing, frequently forgot to tell players who'd show up to empty practice gyms

- 1 Top 100 recruit (#93) despite largest recruiting budget nationally. Also did an entire Austrailian recruiting trip and didn't get any recruits

- Spent money so frivolously that AU athletics changed their reporting system to hide embarrassment. He even hired Ludicrous for a midnight madness concert no one went to

- Was 1 semester away from Academic probation + postseason DQ

This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 9:16 pm
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25267 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:17 pm to
No one is defending him and acting like he was some good coach. He was mediocre to average. We achieved mediocre results. If you can't see how you saying he was terrible and nearly destroyed the program is moronic then no one is going to be able to help you.
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