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Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:10 pm to Gary Busey
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:10 pm to Gary Busey
quote:Avery Jr is a career 36.5% 2P shooter. I know he'll put up a nifty little floater high off the backboard every once in awhile but he's not exactly Releford in that regard
I'd rather have Coleman's ball handling skills and his ability to drive and kick, but that's just me. Aj has shown he can finish around the basket which is something Coleman struggled with here.
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:20 pm to GatorsGators
I agree. I think its a joke that Avery is on scholy. A 5'10 guy who can't bring the ball up the court or break town a defense. Have to play him off ball and then he air balls majority of the open threes.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:05 am to Tide or Die87
AJ has a clutch gene and toughness that Coleman never had. Remember, Coleman was a Grant guy. These kids were taught to have a loser mentality under Grant and CAJ had to come in and change the culture. TBH, Grant was so catastrophic that I'm not sure we'll ever recover from his tenure, but I hope we do.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 4:56 am to CrimsonTider98
Do you really believe the stuff ? Forever ? whew sure hope Avery coaches it out of them.
Jr lacks the basketball gene....he has one move dribble right throw up some hook floater thing high off the glass a couple times it went in.
Jr lacks the basketball gene....he has one move dribble right throw up some hook floater thing high off the glass a couple times it went in.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:12 am to JBearden
Dmitry Rivny is 5th in scoring on the Adidas shoe circuit after one weekend of play with with 20.3 ppg 
I hope we find room for him. *cough* Take Jr off scholarship *cough*
I hope we find room for him. *cough* Take Jr off scholarship *cough*
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:22 am to TomRollTideRitter
Through 4 games of EYBL play the Georgia Starts are 2-2 with Kira and Watford as their leading scorers.
Kira- 20.8/3.8/3.8 with 3.2 steals and 2.5 turnovers per game. Shooting 45.2% overall, 43.5% from 3
, and 73.9% from the line
Watford- 17.5/7.8/1.5 with 1.8 steals, almost 1 block, and only 1.5 turnovers per game. Shooting 46.9% overall, 30% from 3, and 63.6% from the line
(Points/Rebounds/Assists)
Kira- 20.8/3.8/3.8 with 3.2 steals and 2.5 turnovers per game. Shooting 45.2% overall, 43.5% from 3
, and 73.9% from the line Watford- 17.5/7.8/1.5 with 1.8 steals, almost 1 block, and only 1.5 turnovers per game. Shooting 46.9% overall, 30% from 3, and 63.6% from the line
(Points/Rebounds/Assists)
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:24 am to TomRollTideRitter
Walton is at 15ppg in the Under Armour Association through 4 games as well. Shooting 43% overall, but he's only 6-24 from 3.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:25 am to CrimsonTider98
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AJ has a clutch gene and toughness that Coleman never had. Remember, Coleman was a Grant guy. These kids were taught to have a loser mentality under Grant and CAJ had to come in and change the culture. TBH, Grant was so catastrophic that I'm not sure we'll ever recover from his tenure, but I hope we do.
Grant was not the antichrist... Coleman single-handedly kept us in that Oregon game. Whenever we had to close out the game at the FT line, he was the guy we wanted to get the ball to. As for leadership, where are you seeing this in Avery on the court? He doesn't even know how to lead or even start an offense. He got better towards the end of the year, but I'd still take sophomore Coleman over this year's Avery Jr. Taking into account this past year, it's not even close. There's value in a PG that actually can run an offense.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 8:50 am
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:28 am to TomRollTideRitter
Austin Crowley is having sort of rough time so far, but his team is maybe the worst in all of EYBL. He's averaging 11ppg, but don't expect him to make many threes if he comes here.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:30 am to BigBird09
I'm sick of this Coleman AJ Jr nonsense. This is like the 80th time this debate has been rehashed on here. Coleman's been gone for two years. Let him go.
I doubt Coleman would've stuck around backing up Ingram and Sexton anyways, so I don't think the straight comparison to AJ Jr even matters.
I also don't think many if any of our failings last year were because of the backup point guard who was really more the third point guard because Ingram took over when Sexton was hurt.
I doubt Coleman would've stuck around backing up Ingram and Sexton anyways, so I don't think the straight comparison to AJ Jr even matters.
I also don't think many if any of our failings last year were because of the backup point guard who was really more the third point guard because Ingram took over when Sexton was hurt.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 8:33 am
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:36 am to TomRollTideRitter
Is anyone worried Kira may be playing too well? He's currently top 10 in EYBL scoring. We may have to fight off some big time programs for him.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:48 am to TomRollTideRitter
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I'm so sick of this Coleman AJ Jr nonsense. Coleman's been gone for two years. Let him go.
I doubt Coleman would've stuck around backing up Ingram and Sexton anyways, so I don't think the straight comparison to AJ Jr even matters.
I'm not the one that keeps bringing it up, but when it gets brought up, I will defend him. I wish people could let go of his stats from his first 2 years of college basketball and realize that players typically get better (and in Coleman's case more consistent) as the years go. Coleman had the potential to be someone here, I thought it then and still think it now. The comparison to AJ Jr is there because he was pushed out to make PT available for Junior. I'm not mad about it, but it is what it is.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:01 am to GatorsGators
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Avery Jr is a career 36.5% 2P shooter. I know he'll put up a nifty little floater high off the backboard every once in awhile but he's not exactly Releford in that regard
Considering how adept he is at that floater, I am shocked that his 2FG% is that low
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:03 am to TomRollTideRitter
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Dmitry Rivny is 5th in scoring on the Adidas shoe circuit after one weekend of play with with 20.3 ppg
Have we gotten any word as to why we're just now hearing about him, when he's been playing in Alabama? Sounds like he's pretty good to have remained this quiet.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:06 am to BigBird09
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The comparison to AJ Jr is there because he was pushed out to make PT available for Junior.
Do we even know if this is true? I remember Coleman being upset with PT his last year here when AJ Jr wasn't even eligible.
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I wish people could let go of his stats from his first 2 years of college basketball
You're talking to a board that acts like John Petty is the worst high four star prospect in history because he only averaged 10 ppg his freshman year
There's no way JC's sub 30% shooting percentage is getting let go. I wanted Coleman to stay at the time, but I think it was probably best for him to get a change of scenery.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:09 am to TomRollTideRitter
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Dmitry Rivny is 5th in scoring on the Adidas shoe circuit after one weekend of play with with 20.3 ppg
Have we gotten any word as to why we're just now hearing about him, when he's been playing in Alabama? Sounds like he's pretty good to have remained this quiet.
Here's a few clips of Walton and Ryuny. LINK
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:09 am to BigBird09
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Have we gotten any word as to why we're just now hearing about him, when he's been playing in Alabama? Sounds like he's pretty good to have remained this quiet.
Yeah it's weird. He only has like 50 Twitter followers, and if you Google his name, I'm pretty sure this board will be one of the first hits.
He'll definitely get some DI offers with those numbers though. I hope it's here. I've been longing for an athletic spread 4.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:12 am to TomRollTideRitter
Also what are the rules for him to still be eligible to play in an AAU circuit as a Class of 2018 recruit? Not sure I remember that happening before. Is he just a very young senior?
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:33 am to TomRollTideRitter
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Do we even know if this is true? I remember Coleman being upset with PT his last year here when AJ Jr wasn't even eligible.
His uncle posted on another board. He said Coleman wanted to stay. Avery was nice about it, but told him he didn't see PT in his future here. I don't think Coleman ever was unhappy with his PT, but I don't know that for sure.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:33 am to CrimsonTider98
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AJ has a clutch gene and toughness that Coleman never had. Remember, Coleman was a Grant guy. These kids were taught to have a loser mentality
I know nothing about Coleman and his mental makeup, but I have so many questions about this
- Coleman is a Grant guy because he was recruited by Grant? So is Donta Hall in question for toughness/clutch because he was recruited by Grant?
- Or was it that Grant did enough damage in 1 year to Coleman he is not salvageable? Then how did guys like Trever Releford, Obasohan and Trevor Lacey do well at Bama? Hell even Cooper/Rudolph were pretty good
- Grant actively taught kids to lose or just wasn't capable of teaching a winning mentality? Grant didn't inherit a winning mentality from Gottfried yet he won a decent amount before sputtering out
- It is impossible for someone (e.g Coleman) to be clutch because he wasn't FR/SO seasons? I mean, he was an undersized backup PG, are they expected to show consistent clutch/toughness?
Then you drop this which makes it even more interesting
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TBH, Grant was so catastrophic that I'm not sure we'll ever recover from his tenure, but I hope we do.
- So a coach only 3% off the program history win% was so damaging it is unrecoverable?
- Bama football can go from Schula to Saban dominant, but Alabama basketball can't go from 19W avg under Grant to 21+ NCAAT wins?
- So a historical clown program like Auburn, coming off their worst basketball coach in Barbee can turn it around but Alabama can't?
Grant was a mediocre coach, but to act like he was something worse w/ long term damaging effects seems absurd to me. On name brand, state loyalty in recruiting and financial resources, I don't think it is possible for a coach to torpedo a program outside of incurring sanctions
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 9:38 am
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