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re: Alabama Basketball Recruiting and Offseason Talk
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:56 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:56 pm to TomRollTideRitter
I’m hearing Sean Miller at Zona is the next big name to follow Pitino to the unemployment line.
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:05 pm to GenesChin
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Then there is the EYBL thing. Not Sexton specific but any Nike school who signed multiple top EYBL kids should be worried. Hard to believe school/players are all clean
This is a really good point. Some of those kids could be ineligible through absolutely NO fault of the program they ended up joining.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:20 pm to GenesChin
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If you do the math, you have to have a pretty high success rate securing services if you pay $15,000 for just meetups.
I don't think so. We're talking about a NBA where Timofey Mozgov is getting $16 million per year. You stand to make millions by landing one lottery guy like Sexton.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:27 pm to phaz
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You have made your point in our thread NUMEROUS times now, we know anything is possible. But nice to have an AU fan telling us in every other Post in this thread we may have some consequences, despite all the evidence at this point looks like we get past this.
Amen, get the Auburn poster off of the Bama board.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:30 pm to ArabianKnight
Gonna stay positive
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:34 pm to Bamafan15
He hasn't said anything out of line.
There are lots of potential paths that could end badly for Bama so it is best to keep the sunshine pump at idle for now.
There are lots of potential paths that could end badly for Bama so it is best to keep the sunshine pump at idle for now.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:39 pm to GenesChin
quote:Yea, but Sexton remain eligible and that is what we ultimately need. No harm done to us really. Baker has resigned and the UA compliance department will report what they have found to the NCAA.
FBI isn't after recruits/parents so they don't need to be "cleared" Recruits taking money isn't illegal, they aren't employees of federally funded universities
quote:Unless the NCAA can prove that his dad took money, what can they really do?
I haven't read anywhere where the FBI said "Sexton's dad turned it down" or tht they "cleared them"
quote:Again, what can the NCAA do? If the FBI reports and/or arrests Sexton's dad then the NCAA doesn't have a leg to stand on. Being that Sexton's dad would have received the money in the 2017 calendar year, he doesn't have to report it on his taxes until he files for 2017, which will be next year. The Fed can only arrest him for tax invasion then and the NCAA will not have any substantial proof until then.
The FBI did not release any information regarding whether or not money ended up with Sexton from what I've read. They've only said Baker got paid in relation to a meeting for Sexton. Whether Baker than gave money to Sexton isn't mentioned
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:42 pm to JustGetItRight
I don't think anyone is sunshine pumping at all. Most people are just trying to find a bright side. So people just get a little tired of getting "actually"-ed by a rival fan over and over on their own board. Not really a huge fault of Gene's, it is just the nature of a tense situation.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:55 pm to MontyFranklyn
Yep, I think as long as nobody proves the Sexton's got money, we'll be fine. Hopefully they DIDN'T get money, but I'll settle for lack of proof and everybody being on their best behavior from now on.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:07 pm to Teague
We need a basketball insider to go to Coleman and see if Sexton is practicing with the team. That would be a good indicator.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:12 pm to Teague
Part of Alabama’s defense to the bitter end should be “we hired someone out the NCAA compliance department for fricks sake. If we can’t trust them to follow the rules, who can we trust?”
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:13 pm to eric4UA08
For the record I don't see anything coming from the Baker. Don't see reason FBI pursues that even if something is there. I also don't think the NCAA will hammer any player/remove eligibility. The way FBI is framing this as players are victims of coaches/handlers, how widespread it is and other details.
I imagine almost all players who didn't explicitly acknowledge breaking NCAA rules + "repay" some benefits + minor suspension
I expect Sexton to play games this year for Bama.
I imagine almost all players who didn't explicitly acknowledge breaking NCAA rules + "repay" some benefits + minor suspension
I expect Sexton to play games this year for Bama.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:23 pm to MontyFranklyn
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If the FBI reports and/or arrests Sexton's dad
The family wouldn't have any exposure unless they lied to the FBI. From an FBI standpoint, they're free to take whatever they want from whomever they want. The only people that have criminal exposure are the employees of the institutions getting federal money and the people throwing around the money.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:23 pm to ArabianKnight
quote:Nah. We're not like the AU board.
Amen, get the Auburn poster off of the Bama board.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:25 pm to GenesChin
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For the record I don't see anything coming from the Baker. Don't see reason FBI pursues that even if something is there. I also don't think the NCAA will hammer any player/remove eligibility. The way FBI is framing this as players are victims of coaches/handlers, how widespread it is and other details.
I think you're right, but I'm not going to build myself up and get disappointed. Quite honestly, I don't think they were after the Person/Baker type of activity at all. They were after the shoe company/AAU/Louisville types and Person/Baker just fell into their laps.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:33 pm to JustGetItRight
Person is just a fricking shitbag. All these other pay for play schemes, I get it. They are trying to win and do their job. At least the kids get paid in a value transaction
Person was trying to make more money by fricking over kids. That's so fricked up
I don't see a way a kid like Sexton situation gets in trouble for a shark and his father. Maybe a slap in the wrist but don't see more
Person was trying to make more money by fricking over kids. That's so fricked up
I don't see a way a kid like Sexton situation gets in trouble for a shark and his father. Maybe a slap in the wrist but don't see more
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:37 pm to GenesChin
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Person was trying to make more money by fricking over kids. That's so fricked up
Our guy too.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:42 pm to GenesChin
I think with these guys it starts out not seeming too bad. These shoe companies/financial advisers schmooze and befriend them. Then the "gifts" start. It's probably kind of just a gradual slide from iffy to shitty without them really admitting it to themselves.
I mean, they're still shite bags. But I see how it happens.
I mean, they're still shite bags. But I see how it happens.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:43 pm to JustGetItRight
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Our guy too.
Same thing but he isn't making assistant coach money, Person started scheme and Person as AU legend didn't need to resort to this
I don't see the NCAA taking it out on players as long as they cooperate/accept token punishment. Unless player showed clear knowledge of breaking rules or extreme case
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:46 pm to Teague
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mean, they're still shite bags. But I see how it happens.
Person went looking for a loan/ways to make money. The guy didnt get caught up in a scheme. He went looking for it to make money
The distinction is he didn't buy players/recruits, he used players that trusted him in his word "100%"
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